#10604
04/29/2009 09:03 PM
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i have been offered, by e-mail, this "ss armband", does anyone have an opinion based upon this one pic as to it`s originality?. if it looks a dud on first glance, i`ll take my interest no further, but if it looks like it may have a chance i`ll take it further. thanks in advance.
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#10605
04/29/2009 09:13 PM
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i agree with your observation,,its a dud
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#10606
04/29/2009 10:38 PM
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I'm not an expert on SS armbands, but I don't understand how you can tell anything without clear, closeup photos.
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#10607
04/29/2009 11:09 PM
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if you know what to look for,this pic sufficed to discern,in my opinion,that this is a bad one,,,
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#10608
04/29/2009 11:32 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Josias: I'm not an expert on SS armbands, but I don't understand how you can tell anything without clear, closeup photos.
EVEN WITH THE POOR IMAGE, IT IS APPARENT THAT THE MATERIALS USED ARE NOT THOSE FOUND ON AN ORIGINAL EXAMPLE
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#10609
04/30/2009 06:23 PM
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I must need glasses, because it's hard to tell what materials they are. It appears to be wool, but I'm still not sure.
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#10610
04/30/2009 06:32 PM
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i believe it is wool. i`m informed it also has an rzm tag inside.this is in a local auction, so i may pop along to the viewing next week for a look, i am interested in some stuff which is definitely original, so while i`m there.....
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#10611
04/30/2009 06:36 PM
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just as an aside , there are two of these in the sale. this is the second one, again , according to the description, made of wool, RZM tag.
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#10612
04/30/2009 07:53 PM
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its not all that difficult to make an armband out of wool and slap an RZM tag on it,,the fakers do it all the time,,,
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#10613
04/30/2009 09:20 PM
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Make sure that the white oval is just that and not perfectly round..IMO
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#10614
04/30/2009 11:28 PM
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THE SECOND ARMBAND APPEARS TO BE CORRECT. HOWEVER, THE IMAGE IS NOT THE BEST. THE MAJORITY OF SS ARMBANDS HAVE A SLIGHTLY OVAL WHITE DISC. HOWEVER, ORIGINAL PERIOD ONES ARE FOUND WITH A ROUND OVAL.
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#10615
05/01/2009 11:37 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Bob Coleman: THE SECOND ARMBAND APPEARS TO BE CORRECT. HOWEVER, THE IMAGE IS NOT THE BEST. THE MAJORITY OF SS ARMBANDS HAVE A SLIGHTLY OVAL WHITE DISC. HOWEVER, ORIGINAL PERIOD ONES ARE FOUND WITH A ROUND OVAL.
hmmmm... so the 2nd one may stand a chance. interesting,thanks for that. anyone else got an opinion on number 2?.
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#10616
05/08/2009 11:33 AM
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just an update. i`ve had both these armbands `in hand` for the first time this morning. and the construction, materials etc are identical between the two. the white RZM tags on each have the letter "F", has this any relevance?. both the white disks appear oval in shape, and the stitching and construction appears good to my untrained eye. anyone have any further thoughts. the auction is tomorrow, saturday, i`m going along anyway, do i bid??.....help!!.
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#10617
05/08/2009 01:20 PM
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bid and take your chances,,maybe you'll get lucky,,,
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#10618
05/08/2009 01:42 PM
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quote: Originally posted by militarymania: bid and take your chances,,maybe you'll get lucky,,,
hmmmm, do these have the letter `F` on the tag as a matter of course?. having had them in hand they look the real deal, i`m not discounting anyone`s opinons, real or fake. i`m torn over these.
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#10619
05/09/2009 02:27 AM
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I would think it very uncommon to find an F coded tag in this type of armband..
That is a type of tag one would expect to see on a collar tab of more elaborate construction.
Any close up pics of the arm bands or tags?
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#10620
05/09/2009 02:37 AM
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WELL, PICTURES DO NOT ALWAYS TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH. A LATER WOOL SS ARMBAND WITH PAPER SS RZM TAG SHOULD HAVE A "D" CODE, NOT "F." I CONCUR THAT THIS IS A BIG RED FLAG.
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#10621
05/09/2009 07:59 PM
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just a final word on the armbands. even though i was sure to about 90 something percent that they were real, i didn`t bid. the B/D/F letter thing, put enough doubt at the back of my mind to make me hold off. but thanks for all your help and advice guys. much appreciated!.
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#10622
06/22/2009 10:31 PM
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Looks like I'm the new owner of band #2. Here is a close up, so please lets hear your opinions one more time.
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#10623
06/22/2009 10:34 PM
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#10624
06/22/2009 10:39 PM
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I know that letter F is to high but does that mean that tag is fake?
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#10625
06/22/2009 11:34 PM
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THE RZM TAG IS DEFINITELY A FAKE. THE RED MATERIAL IS COURSE AND NOT LIKE THAT FOUND ON ANY PERIOD EXAMPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN. IN MY OPINION, THIS IS A FAIRLY WELL MADE FAKE.
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