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Maker, group (I), and SS number on the guard...
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Nice one!
Is there any repair work towards the tip of the blade? Do you think the scabbard is original to the dagger?
Shame that number isn't in the key...
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Congratulations!!!  Cheers,
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Very good find !
After I found that first one, I was always hoping that more would appear. I think this is the third.
The blade should be 220mm long. Mine has an anodized scabbard.
Dave
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Yes, A rare maker to find. Now on these your blade tang should have this mark on it. -Congrats! -wagner- 
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I beg to differ about which (if any) mark should be found on the tang. Mine has none as does the other example which I know.
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Very nice!  Congratulations! Brad
The happiest people don't necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the best of everything they have . . . .
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The seven circle tang mark is found on at least three different SS and SA dagger maker-marked blades and M36 chained pieces, as well as NPEA blades.
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Congratulations (!)
It is so nice to see these 'Rarer' SS Makers show up, especially in such a very well conditioned Example.
Who knows what is 'still' hidden away in trunks & attics & wall spaces - yet to be uncovered?
Good going & thanks for Sharing !!!!!!
Dave
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Thx all for your congrats!
- SDP: No repair work toward the blades'tip, only light marks of rust; The scabbard was with the dagger, and all right.
- Wagner: I've a mark on the tang an inversed HR (see the following pic)
- Dave: the length of the blade is good 220 mm.
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Lovely dagger! Mine has no tang-markings, anodized scabbard, and "P.A." crossguards. Cheers,
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Thx Trigger,
"E.L." for me in the crossguards!
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Well Done Jochen.. A very nice example of a rare SS dagger maker.  -wagner-
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Never seen tangmark !? Is this tangmark published ?
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deutscher, I can't seem to find it in mentioned anywhere.  But it seems like I've seen it somewhere... -wagner-
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Superbe  tr�s belle dague et hyper rare. Belle trouvaille ! 
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Mine has no tang marking as well.
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Hi Jochen:
Congratulations! 7.7.07 was your lucky day! Through intensive research in the captured TR records in the National Archives, I now have a database of more than 50,000 SS numbers for men not in the Dienstalterslistes. I have been able to identify the original owner of your SS dagger no. 47 165. As an added bonus, he was a member of Leibstandarte SS. Adolph Hitler! Contact me for more information.
Regards,
Ross Kelbaugh
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Hi Ross
I don't suppose i could be lucky enough for SS no. 79922 to be in your data base
regards
Sean
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Ross, can you check if 162203 is listed. Thanks
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Hi Gents:
Thanks for the inquiries. Unfortunately, I do not have a hit for either number yet (closest are 79 924 and 162 204). Those one or two off are a heart breaker, but as the saying goes, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. I am adding numbers every week and will keep yours on file.
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Ross Kelbaugh
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quote: Originally posted by SS-Researcher:
Hi Jochen:
Congratulations! 7.7.07 was your lucky day! Through intensive research in the captured TR records in the National Archives, I now have a database of more than 50,000 SS numbers for men not in the Dienstalterslistes. I have been able to identify the original owner of your SS dagger no. 47 165. As an added bonus, he was a member of Leibstandarte SS. Adolph Hitler! Contact me for more information.
Regards,
Ross Kelbaugh
Ross! Congrats to you! It's effectively a great and fantastic day! I wait now more informations on "47165": thanks you for all! Best regards Jochen
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Ross many thanks for looking i didn't think i would be that lucky
sean
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Thanks for checking Ross. If you should come across the number please let me know.
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Ross is the Boss!! That was great news.Congrats Jochen!! Ehhh...any chance 70093 is in there??  Ulf.
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Thanks for the compliment Ulf. Unfortunately, I have not found 70 093 as of yet (closest so far are 70 080 and 70 130). I will add it to my file of unidentified that I always check after adding new entries and will let you know if I get a hit.
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Thanks Ross! That is great!
Ulf.
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Glance this way and that. Who knows beforehand what foes may sit, awaiting him in the hall?" -Odin
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