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Posted By: PeterBoldy Who has an early Luftwaffe sword in the box? - 05/22/2010 06:34 PM
Is there someone else who has an early Luftwaffe sword in a box?
I am in possesion of one ( Puma ) unissued
I am very curious....i already saw late model Aluminium in Germany ( Helmut Weitze) but never
saw another one.

Please can you inform me?

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Only ever dreamed of one!!
Beauty thanks for sharing!
Would this be the way it was given to the customer at the retail level?
that is a very rare find. a real beauty. like it was in a time capsule. really great. thanks for showing it.
Thanks Paul, your reactions are alway's so positive!

This box whas found 2 years ago in an old distribution center in Germany.
It never reached his address, it had to be send to : Oberleutnant Wilhelm Paeschke, von der Tinnestrasse 13 Munster

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I know what I want for Christmas!! Great stuff.
Can you post some closeups of the belt,hanger and the sword of course!!!!
Posted By: Grumpy Re: Who has an early Luftwaffe sword in the box? - 05/22/2010 07:24 PM
Almost certainly one of a kind!
Maybe if the guy is still alive you can finally present him with his sword. lol Only kidding but that is a beauty, wow!
close up

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A very impressive find!! Congratulations !!! Smile Smile FP
Posted By: pvon Re: Who has an early Luftwaffe sword in the box? - 05/23/2010 01:18 AM
Superb find! Never saw the box before!

Ed Sunday has 14 mint swords but no box!

Better step up ED! Big Grin
Gotta love that belt!
Teriffic piece ! Hard enough to find one by Puma , but in a box with hardware too boot ! Yeah I'd like to buy that one !
Peter,
Very nice.

If you'd like me to deliver it to the officer, who's surely retired by now Wink, just send it over and i'll "take care" of delivery for you Big Grin.

I was tossing around what something like this would be worth, monitarily speaking. Gauging a value on this piece would be really difficult. We all know there havn't been any pieces this complete sold in contemporary times. A one-of-a-kind score, which is surely not to happen again anytime soon.

Very well done.

Tom
Posted By: wotan Re: Who has an early Luftwaffe sword in the box? - 05/23/2010 01:11 PM
I think this one came from "Dragoner08" and was sold for around 3000 EUR in 2008?
Regards,
A beauty and just the way you like to find them so there is no argument as to originality or source.
Here is some interesting information that might be related to this officer:
Wilhelm Paeschke


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Ph.D. Georg-August-Universität Göttingen 1937
Dissertation: Experimentelle Untersuchungen zum Rauhigkeits- und Stabilitaetsproblem in der bodennahen Luftschicht
Posted By: Jim W Re: Who has an early Luftwaffe sword in the box? - 05/23/2010 04:34 PM
This is the google translation.

quote:
Experimentelle Untersuchungen zum Rauhigkeits- und Stabilitaetsproblem in der bodennahen Luftschicht


"Experimental investigations to the roughness and stability problem in the near-surface air layer"

Does this mean he was part of the early missle program in Germany?
Thanks guy's for all the nice reactions, yes it's a very nice piece and i am very happy with it.
If you Google to that address you can see the house is still there but not the Fa.Paeschke anymore...never the less i will keep on searching!

Kind regards to all,

Peter
If that Google search is for the man in question, I would be looking for him in the U.S., not Europe.

As well, I would concentrate my search in the Alabama area..! Big Grin
I just ran a search on this person and found this: cgi.ebay.pl/Platinring-PT-950-Durchmesser-17-3mm-4-.
I think it may be the same person.
Doug-

I did a couple web searches on him, and found allusion to him in Alabama, though the details were shotty and pretty sparce (WOW- touchy filter-I had to change the spelling since the filter believed it was a profanity Confused). Did he immigrate to the US after the war and teach at an Alabama university?

Tom
Tom, I am thinking with his involvement in rocketry, that he was invited over to work on America's rocket program courtesy of the U.S. govt..

Alabama is the home of experimental rocketry.
HI Doug-

That's kinda' what I figured..Op. Paperclip.

Thanks for the response Doug.

Tom
Posted By: BOB C Re: Who has an early Luftwaffe sword in the box? - 05/26/2010 12:25 PM
here's one in a box.
http://www.militarycollectible...Product_Code=sw00151
What a wondeful complete early 1st Luft package ! Eek

Note the early nickel swords came with a wooden box while the later Aluminum versions were of cardboard.

Congrats ! Smile

-serge-
If you go to the ebay site I posted above there are several photos of this Officer in his uniform. Here's part of what they list:

Privatfotonachlass of the (last rank) Major William Paeschke, who startet his career on the battleship Derfflinger as a naval engineer-Applicant, and further on imperial submarines, cruiser Emden, 2nd Freikorps Ehrhardt/ von Löwenfeldt , etc. and finally ended as a Major in the Air Force World War II (Air Research Institute Herman Goering) . Paescke also worked at Peenemünde.

Very intereing the foto with the bajonett/dagger, that shows him during his time at the Freikorps Marinebrigade von Löwenfeldt.
As evidence of the person his original drivers license of 1928 is enclosed.


Where he went after the war is not mentioned.
I believe this is your man.

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Wow. What an interesting career. Very cool.

Peenemünde...I guess that says it all. Nice one way ticket to a new life in the United States...sure beat the alternative.
Posted By: janjan Re: Who has an early Luftwaffe sword in the box? - 06/01/2010 12:33 PM
It is a strange box normally you would expect a Puma logo on the box.
Who is Carl Klappenbach from Uelsen?
Most likely the dealer or distributor for uniform effekten
Dear Notaguru,

I just saw your reaction, wow thanks a lot for your research, i appreciate this very much!

Kind regards,

Peter
Anytime. I've always appreciated it when collectors took the time to help me find information.
Posted By: Jonesy Re: Who has an early Luftwaffe sword in the box? - 06/03/2010 04:02 AM
Notaguru-great stuff. To expand on your comment- Would that be a 1919 Naval in the 7 O'clock photo? It looks like it is hanging like an earlier single hanger ring piece but to my eye certainly a dagger with knot. Do we know the dates of his service? Obviously a dedicated man.
Personally, I have no idea. I'm not well versed in Navy daggers.
The first reply I posted on this thread has an ebay listing of a lot of his record. I'm not sure it it's been sold yet. Go to: cgi.ebay.pl/Platinring-PT-950-Durchmesser-17-3mm-4-.
Hello from Germany.
I sold all of Wilhelms stuff on EBAY to a US-collector about 2010.
His sword is still at "Weitze", Hamburg for sale, right ?

https://www.weitze.net/detail/71/Luftwaf...en__225971.html

Wilhelm was Born 1893 and died 1949.

I still have the fotos of his legacy in my archive.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Winni



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concerning the Navy-dagger:

sorry for poor english

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Originally Posted By: Winner008
Hello from Germany.
I sold all of Wilhelms stuff on EBAY to a US-collector about 2010.
His sword is still at "Weitze", Hamburg for sale, right ?

https://www.weitze.net/detail/71/Luftwaf...en__225971.html

Wilhelm was Born 1893 and died 1949.

I still have the fotos of his legacy in my archive.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Winni




Wait, You sold the documents to someone in 2010. Peter has, or had, the sword. Now Weitze has the sword, and someone else his documents ? frown

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Hello.

I sold 2010 everything, except the sword.
The sword was not in Wilhelm Paeschkes inheritance.
I do not know how Weitze got it .
Perhaps it was sold to Weitze by a relative long before 2010.
I do not remember the name of my buyer any more, maybe I should find out the name of the buyer again by looking in my PayPal account.
Maybe the last 5 year old transactions are still visible.
But anyway I think the main interst of the buyer were the documents and the pictures and the medals,badges,awards and not the Edged Weapons.
He told me 2010, he was going to write a book about People like Paeschke.
pfffff, very nice!!!
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