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Posted By: Vassago Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 01/29/2017 07:04 PM
Hello colleagues, I found this saber on the internet for sale but before deciding anything since I do not know anything about it, it seems German by its forms but I do not know its time and if it is indeed German or to which army belongs, I would be grateful to The knowledge of the most understood.










Thanks for your comments.
Posted By: Vassago Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 01/29/2017 08:01 PM
I have asked the seller and apparently has no manufacturer seal, is this remarkable and usual?
Posted By: wotan Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 01/30/2017 02:02 PM
Mansvelt & Zoon is a dutch firm and s´Gravenhage is vernacular for The Hague.
Regards,
Posted By: VAT69 Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 01/30/2017 04:15 PM
It looks like an Infantry officer's saber mod. 1912 Netherlands.

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Posted By: Vassago Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 01/31/2017 11:59 AM
Could it be that this saber was a protagonist in World War I?
Posted By: VAT69 Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 01/31/2017 03:49 PM
It is unlikely, Holland was a neutral country in WW1
Posted By: Vassago Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 01/31/2017 08:36 PM
And is it usual for this type of sabers to have no manufacturer seal? Do you know who made them?
Posted By: VAT69 Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 01/31/2017 10:56 PM
Manufacturer's stamp may be absent, it is not unusual. Similar variant of ferrule i seen on the hilt from Hörster, E. & F. It is necessary to ask the distributor (Mansvelt & Zoon) smile

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Posted By: Joe S Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 02/01/2017 03:16 AM
It is a Dutch army officer's saber. Eickhorn made some and it is shown in the Eickhorn export catalog for the Netherlands model # 369. Joe S
Posted By: VAT69 Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 02/01/2017 09:23 AM
IMHO Design differs from Eickhorn.

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Posted By: VAT69 Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 02/01/2017 09:24 AM
I mean this one

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Posted By: Vassago Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 02/01/2017 02:57 PM
Bone that could be its German manufacturer, although we are not sure, What more manufacturers made this sword or could manufacture it even though it did not have a manufacturing seal? I find interesting the debate that has been formed with this piece.
Posted By: Joe S Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 02/05/2017 04:03 AM
Your original attachment shows two different sabers, one with a plain ferrule, one with an embellished one. The embellished one looks like an Eickhorn pattern, but it could have been made by someone else. The sword is definitely a Dutch army officers saber from the 1930s. It is exactly like one from my collection . The Blade etching is Dutch for "Eisenhouser, which literally means "Iron Cutting" and refers to a high quality blade. I sold my Eickhorn export catalogs and cannot find a copy of the page depicting your saber, but if I do, I will post it. Joe S
Posted By: Vassago Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 02/06/2017 01:06 AM
Thanks for your comments, every day I learn more with you, what price in the market can reach a saber like the one I show?
Posted By: Joe S Re: Sable that looks German, opinions please. - 02/06/2017 02:23 AM
I sold mine about two years ago for $400
Joe S
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