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Posted By: alien Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/26/2014 11:52 AM
Hello,
Dear community (colleagues).
Who has seen such a stamp?






Best regards
Vitaliy
Posted By: JohnZ Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/26/2014 03:27 PM
E u F Horster.

John
Posted By: alien Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/26/2014 04:33 PM
Originally Posted By: JohnZ
E u F Horster.

John

Hello John,
Yes.
You already have seen exactly this before?
I have never met.
Regards Vitaliy
Posted By: Baz69 Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/26/2014 08:54 PM
This mark was used between 1928-1934.

Gary
Posted By: alien Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/27/2014 09:55 AM
Hello Gary,
Thanks.
You can have this to show me?

Vitaliy
Posted By: JohnZ Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/27/2014 03:39 PM
Vitaliy:

I have three versions of the Horster TM on 2nd Luftwaffe daggers.

Here they are.

John

Attached picture EF Horster TM.JPG
Attached picture EF Horster Ges Gesch TM.JPG
Attached picture Horster TM - No Oval.JPG
Posted By: Fred Prinz - FP Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/27/2014 03:57 PM
Generally I tend to agree with Gary as being early rather than later, the Luftwaffe example from John shows that there can be exceptions. Fred
Posted By: JohnZ Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/27/2014 04:48 PM
Fred:

My theory is that some of the first orders for Luft2s were made with blades that were in stock.. the blades were the same ones as used in Heer daggers and so some very early maker marked blades from stock would have been used to make some early Luft2s.

John
Posted By: Baz69 Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/27/2014 07:29 PM
Alien

Here is an early (1934) Deutsche Jagerschaft hirschfanger with the same mark. I have also seen a number of Forestry hirschfangers, a couple of Navy daggers as well with the same mark.

Gary

Attached picture DJ Horster 007 (Medium).jpg
Attached picture DJ Horster 011 (Medium).jpg
Attached picture DJ Horster 015 (Medium).jpg
Posted By: mrfabulous Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/27/2014 08:29 PM
Darn nice dagger there baz!!
Posted By: alien Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/27/2014 09:05 PM
Thank You!
Baz69, JohnZ,Fred.
Best regards
Vitaliy
Posted By: Fred Prinz - FP Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/28/2014 01:36 AM
Originally Posted By: JohnZ
Fred:

My theory is that some of the first orders for Luft2s were made with blades that were in stock.. the blades were the same ones as used in Heer daggers and so some very early maker marked blades from stock would have been used to make some early Luft2s.

John

John,

That works for me smile.

Thanks and Best Regards,

Fred
Posted By: ORPO Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/28/2014 03:08 PM
What is neat about this piece is that it was made in a sword length rather than as a shorter cutlass length.
Posted By: Baz69 Re: Sword(Hirschf�nger) - 08/28/2014 08:42 PM
ORPO

Your right, this is the first one I have seen in this long length from this time period, not that common from the Imperial period either.

Gary
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