Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 06:24 AM
Here are a few pics of my Eickhorn"Field Marshall" series sword.I really like the hand incised eagle!
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Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 06:33 AM
Does anyone know which model of the Field marshall series was the most popular with the troops? Geoff.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 02:19 PM
It would be impossible to state which pattern was the most popular with the troops without searching the original factory sales records, but the Scharnhorst, Von Stein and Wrangel seem to be the most common. The Roon, pictured above, was the most expensive army sword sold by Eickhorn, probably due to the extensive hand chiseling involved in the hilt decoration. Joe S
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 04:03 PM
Joe is quite right about the Roon. It is often underestimated because it looks plain compaired to the fussy lionheads. This sword was the most expensive in the Army lineup. It really was the top of the line Eickhorn Heer Säbel.
Geoff, you have a very nice example of the cream of the Eickhorn Army Swords.
Here is an example of the same sword with an etched blade. Sorry for the poor picture.
George
Geoff, you have a very nice example of the cream of the Eickhorn Army Swords.
Here is an example of the same sword with an etched blade. Sorry for the poor picture.
George
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 04:41 PM
George, they don't get much nicer! 
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 09:58 PM
My etched PE. Scabbard still in it´s sealed paper wrap. Came with the metal seal and the off white sqirrel marked felt hilt cover.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 10:01 PM
Reverse.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 10:02 PM
Blade.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/04/2007 10:03 PM
Detail.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/05/2007 04:59 AM
A Very nice Prinz Eugen Säbel Wotan, especially with the etching.
The Eickhorn 'Roon' can be tough to find at times, it took me a while to find a clean one when I was looking for one years ago. It is much scarcer than some of the other Eickhorn doveheads, as mentioned. It was more expensive at the time of production, as all of the hand chased sabers of this style were. They were costlier than lionheads! They were hand incised, presumably with the use of a template, but each is slightly different from others by the same maker.
The Eickhorn 'Roon' can be tough to find at times, it took me a while to find a clean one when I was looking for one years ago. It is much scarcer than some of the other Eickhorn doveheads, as mentioned. It was more expensive at the time of production, as all of the hand chased sabers of this style were. They were costlier than lionheads! They were hand incised, presumably with the use of a template, but each is slightly different from others by the same maker.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/05/2007 06:04 AM
Thank you all for the replys guys!I really appreciate the help.My Gosh those etched blades are beautiful!!G.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/05/2007 02:05 PM
I believe the Prinz Eugen must have been a favorite. They seem to be one of the most common swords found. I think the big price comes from the SS story.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/06/2007 05:44 AM
Re. the Roon pattern dovehead.
I might add that I suspect that more than hand chasing was involved in the production of this particular hilt. Other makers of this all-incised style hilt were hand cut from templates, or the repetetive chaser's skill. However, the extremely clean and uniform design of the Eickhorn Roon looks to be the result of incused die strikings of some sort, especially the eagle and the acorns on the langet. Some of the incused backstrap design might have resulted from a sandcasting pattern which was finished by hand chasing. At any rate, the Eickhorn Roon is different in many respects from other makers of this style. There also exists an Eickhorn lionhead with a stamped, incused eagle on the langet, similar to the Roon, which made me stop and re-think issue.
If anyone has any knowledge regarding the Roon's production methodology, please pitch in.
Dale, I think that the Prinz Eugen was popular because it was an impressive, handsome design.
Too bad that it was made from zinc die-castings, most of which were not copper flashed to protect the final golden finish.
I might add that I suspect that more than hand chasing was involved in the production of this particular hilt. Other makers of this all-incised style hilt were hand cut from templates, or the repetetive chaser's skill. However, the extremely clean and uniform design of the Eickhorn Roon looks to be the result of incused die strikings of some sort, especially the eagle and the acorns on the langet. Some of the incused backstrap design might have resulted from a sandcasting pattern which was finished by hand chasing. At any rate, the Eickhorn Roon is different in many respects from other makers of this style. There also exists an Eickhorn lionhead with a stamped, incused eagle on the langet, similar to the Roon, which made me stop and re-think issue.
If anyone has any knowledge regarding the Roon's production methodology, please pitch in.
Dale, I think that the Prinz Eugen was popular because it was an impressive, handsome design.
Too bad that it was made from zinc die-castings, most of which were not copper flashed to protect the final golden finish.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/06/2007 11:33 AM
Ace ,Very interesting perspective! I am not familiar with the term "incused"Does this term indicate something cast into an object to provide a basic pattern to work with or upon?Thanks Geoff.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/07/2007 02:21 AM
Geoff, incused means stamped down into the metal. Take another look at your Roon, what do you think about the eagle?
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/07/2007 10:39 AM
Ace, I think you have hit on something interesting.Under closer inspection,of the eagle,It does appear to be "Incused".You cant tell a whole lot by the photos because I have a cheap camera but the hand enhanceing is evident,more as an embellishment to the already "Incused"eagle.Any other comments are welcome!This puts a nice new spin on a piece I only picked up because it was so clean!! G.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/07/2007 10:46 AM
With a loupe you can see a slight distortion in the surrounding metal around the eagle .I percieve a slight "Rounding" or "Plumpness" around the eagle,Kind of like when you use a cookie cutter.Am I off my rocker on this one?? 
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/07/2007 01:17 PM
Geoff,
A good shot of the langet eagle.
If you are familiar with patterned glass there are three types that come to mind:
Pressed glass that is blown into a mold that has a design on it. This would be similar to cast or perhaps even some die struck parts.
Cut glass that has no design when taken from the mold and a design is then cut into it. This would be similar to hand chased designs on a backstrap, ferrel, or guard. It might also apply to hand die struck embellishments such as acorns or eagle.
Press Cut glass that has a pressed design from the mold but then has hand cut sections. The pressed areas are sometimes cleaned up with a wheel by hand or embelishments are simply added to the pressed design.
This glass analogy might be similar to what Ace is talking about.
George
A good shot of the langet eagle.
If you are familiar with patterned glass there are three types that come to mind:
Pressed glass that is blown into a mold that has a design on it. This would be similar to cast or perhaps even some die struck parts.
Cut glass that has no design when taken from the mold and a design is then cut into it. This would be similar to hand chased designs on a backstrap, ferrel, or guard. It might also apply to hand die struck embellishments such as acorns or eagle.
Press Cut glass that has a pressed design from the mold but then has hand cut sections. The pressed areas are sometimes cleaned up with a wheel by hand or embelishments are simply added to the pressed design.
This glass analogy might be similar to what Ace is talking about.
George
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/07/2007 03:14 PM
Hi
I tought the "Lutzow"was the most difficult sword to get of the Fieldmarschal series
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I tought the "Lutzow"was the most difficult sword to get of the Fieldmarschal series
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/07/2007 08:07 PM
Lutzow is the moft difficult of the Field Marshall series to find, but Roon was the most expensive army saber that Eickhorn offered during the war. The original price for most army sabers was 16.50 DM. The Lutzow was priced at 17.50 DM, and the Roon was 18.65DM. Joe S
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/07/2007 10:22 PM
What would 18.65DM equate to these days?G.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/09/2007 09:55 PM
Very cool stuff, guys!!You`re right with the Roon style being top dawg. I `spose that`s why all the "shooting prize" swords are that style.
Anyway, here`s my contibution.paul Weyersberg w/ oak leaf langet,intialized on reverse langet and etched blade.
Anyway, here`s my contibution.paul Weyersberg w/ oak leaf langet,intialized on reverse langet and etched blade.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/09/2007 09:57 PM
Scored this one at the last MAX for a bargain price of $800.00!!
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/09/2007 09:59 PM
It has the early wide blade.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/09/2007 10:45 PM
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That etched saber is a beauty! Does anyone remember the Eickhorn Roon that Tom W had at SOS about three years ago in the original factory wrapper? the gilding was perfect and very bright, the hand chiseling provided a vivid contrast and sparkle, and it was truly one of the most beautifull swords I have ever seen! The regular, run of the mill German swor, Roon or otherwise, , even in excellent condition, just doesnt compare to the one Tom W had! At any rate, to answer the question about the currency conversion, I believe in WWII a DM was worth about 25 cents. In the 1970s I think the DM was worth about 65 cents. I would estimate the WWII cost of the average army saber to be about$4.50 to $5.00. A fully etched blade was only about a dollar or two extra! Apparently these prices represented a significant cost because you find very few army sabers with etched blades or other embellishments. Joe S
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Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/10/2007 12:57 AM
Wotan-that is a beautiful mint sword. One of the best I have seen. Nothing compares to mint.
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/24/2007 10:41 PM
Thank you for your kind words. This Prinz Eugen already has seen some eager dealer eyes offering a high sum. Naturally it stayed in my collection. a true highlight. The ROON of TTW I think once has crossed my way years ago, same time (same source) the P.E was offered to me. It was a pleasure to look at. I could not buy both, I have bought the P.E....
Re: Eickhorn Nr 1716 - 01/24/2007 11:35 PM
Here is a Roon pattern that is different from the norm.After reading about how much work went into this plain Jane,it is starting to look like a prince$$.
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