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Posted By: Fitzer Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/15/2022 08:13 PM
Hello,

On typical Police Bayonets, we often see unit marking on the cross guard and upper scabbard fitting..
Were there designated Unit markings for rural police bayonets vs municipal police bayonets?

The reason, I ask is that I observe a lot of rural bayonets having unit numbers beginning with L (i.e. L. Ar. 306) whereas Municipal bayonets begin with S (i.e. S. D. VII 154) Could be coincidence, but interested in any insights ?

I know this may be an advanced question, but hoping someone can help

Thanks,
John
Posted By: Vern Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/15/2022 09:12 PM
"S" is for "Schutzpolizei" (municipal) while "L" is for "Landjagerei" (rural).
Posted By: Fitzer Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/15/2022 09:42 PM
Thanks Vern. !!
Posted By: Vern Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/15/2022 11:28 PM
wink
Posted By: Billy G. Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/17/2022 01:19 AM
Rural bayonets will often show a brown leather scabbard in addition to the “L” marking.

We also see Polizei bayonets marked “P” for Polizeischule. Occasionally we see bayonets with other letters like “G” or “K”. I would guess they might be for Gemeindenpolizei and Kriminalpolizei.
Posted By: ORPO Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/17/2022 04:13 PM
Fitzer,

Vern and Billy are right on the mark regarding Municipal Schutzpolizei vs. Rural Landjagerei markings but bear in mind what we normally see are Prussian Police markings from the 1922 or the 1932 marking regulations. There were Bavarian Police, Saxon Police, etc. property markings as well. A good book on markings is "German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources" by Gortz & Bryans.

I hope this is helpful.
Posted By: Dave Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/17/2022 04:32 PM
Thanks, ORPO.

Very helpful. You are right about Prussian markings being prevalent.

Dave
Posted By: Fitzer Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/23/2022 08:41 PM
Thanks gents! I believe police bayonets were also reissued.. we sometimes see Weimar period unit marks X'd out and replaced with a simple number. I suppose a Bayonet could have started life in one district then reissued to another?
Posted By: ORPO Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/26/2022 03:52 PM
Yes they could be re-issued. Many were also refurbished and re-issued. So, a long Prussian Police bayonet could have been changed into the shorter post 1936 style Police bayonet with the shortening of the blade and removal of the clam shell guard etc. and returned to service in the now nationalized police anywhere in Germany.
Posted By: Fitzer Re: Police Bayonet Unit Markings - 08/27/2022 02:01 AM
Thanks Orpo.., really useful information!
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