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Posted By: kopterus Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/09/2015 10:11 PM
Hello, Gents.
Here is a new addition to my collection. Could you give me your opinion about this dress bayo?
Thanks!

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Posted By: kopterus Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/09/2015 10:14 PM
the grip

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Posted By: kopterus Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/09/2015 10:19 PM
frog and knot

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Posted By: TKissinger Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/09/2015 11:37 PM
Way to shinny, looks like it was made yesterday, only kidding a mint piece, hard to find these today.
Posted By: kopterus Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/10/2015 01:01 AM
Thanks, Terry!
I never seen a dress bayonet condition like this before, so actually that was the reason to ask for your help. And one more question. Is the TM logo looks OK for you?
Thanks.
Regards, Oleg
Posted By: Billy G. Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/10/2015 01:28 AM
The maker's mark looks OK to me. I've come across two distinct marks by CJ Krebs, this large mark & a smaller, more dainty mark within an oval. Neither are very often seen.

Your bayonet is pretty minty & certainly deserving of that tag. You don't come across examples this clean & cherry very often, congrats.
Posted By: kopterus Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/10/2015 06:16 AM
Thank you guys! Really appreciate your help.
But you didn't tell me nothing about this bit uncommon combination of dress bayo frog and not private but service knot. Is this set looks OK?
Thanks.
Posted By: ORPO Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/10/2015 03:53 PM
The short KS98 was intended for NCOs and therefore should have a NCO Troddel. The longer blades were for EM and should have this wartime Heer Troddel. Having said that, these were private purchase so a Private could have bought a NCO bayonet. The green felt indicates Jaeger units in the Heer.

I hope this is helpful.
Posted By: JohnZ Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/10/2015 04:14 PM
Billy:

I have seen 4 versions of the CJ Krebs TM, large and small single oval and large and small double oval.

Here they are on Luft2s.

John

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Posted By: TKissinger Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/10/2015 05:49 PM
Here are two TMs that I'm aware of. There are several differences between the two.


Posted By: Billy G. Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/11/2015 12:19 AM
Hi John,

I've seen your impressive Krebs 2nd model Luft daggers, just having one of them would be something to be proud of.

Only 2 variant marks for CJK on fire bayonets & KS98s, so far as I've seen. I own fire bayonets with both marks & believe me, they are not common at all.
Posted By: kopterus Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/23/2015 09:07 AM
Thank you. Sorry for late reply but I have one more GOOD question. I saw a lot of short dress bayonets with not green-silver but regular EM troddel and I have one long blade dress bayo with NCO knot that was a direct purchase from the vet's family...So is the statement correct?
Thaks
Posted By: ORPO Re: Carl Julius Krebs Dress Bayonet - 11/23/2015 06:31 PM
Originally Posted By: kopterus
Thank you. Sorry for late reply but I have one more GOOD question. I saw a lot of short dress bayonets with not green-silver but regular EM troddel and I have one long blade dress bayo with NCO knot that was a direct purchase from the vet's family...So is the statement correct?
Thaks


Yes, the short bayonets were supposed to be for Officers and NCOs while the long blades were for EM. Since these were private purchase bayonets (Extra-Seitengewehre) the soldier could buy what they wanted. There was no real way to enforce rules for private purchase bayonets worn off-duty as walking-out dress.
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