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Posted By: trussa Attachment Eatched Eickhorn bayonet (Panzer) - 01/15/2011 12:20 PM
On originality of the given etching don't prompt. With the best trussa

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Posted By: trussa Re: Attachment Eatched Eickhorn bayonet (Panzer) - 01/17/2011 03:46 PM
i have no ideas and no opignon!
I don't think it's an original etch.. I'm quite sure it's a new Eastern Europe etch. It's not as deep and crisp as the original ones.

Henrik
While I believe that counterfeiting is still alive and well in Germany. It could be from the East Bloc. Or maybe an older example done in postwar Germany from one of the establishments (or workers) - that supplemented their income making/altering items for the "collectors market".

With my attention more on the stamped trademark. Which seems to be partially "washed out" from a reworking process.

FP


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Posted By: JohnZ Re: Attachment Eatched Eickhorn bayonet (Panzer) - 01/17/2011 10:30 PM
The only ones I have seen are on short blades...

John
Posted By: trussa Re: Attachment Eatched Eickhorn bayonet (Panzer) - 01/18/2011 07:28 AM
+ fotos

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Posted By: JohnZ Re: Attachment Eatched Eickhorn bayonet (Panzer) - 01/18/2011 04:47 PM
No bottom teeth?

John
Posted By: trussa Re: Attachment Eatched Eickhorn bayonet (Panzer) - 01/18/2011 08:30 PM
nou,
this is the blade form W. Techet book!

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Books are helpful, but using a book does not guarantee originality. And I tend to look at the quality of the work as compared to originals. I also look for signs of age, or if an item might have been refinished. What I am seeing with the new images still looks like something that could have been re-plated. But that is only my opinion from what I seem to be seeing in the images, and "in hand" inspections are unquestionably better. That said - the logo still looks like it’s “washed out” (as compared to the etching). And if the backside of the handle in person looks like it seems to in the image. I would be concerned, and would be looking very closely for other signs of reworking/refinishing. The question being: If plating is damaged by use it usually exposes the base metal. But if the plating fills in or covers over damaged or worn areas it’s probably reworked. FP

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I'm also not a specialist in Eickhorn dress bayonets. But to me it looks like the flags being held are different. One with an outline, the other filled in/solid. FP

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Posted By: trussa Re: Attachment Eatched Eickhorn bayonet (Panzer) - 01/19/2011 06:55 AM
much picters

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Thank you for the extra pictures, but I am sorry to say that with the new images I have not as yet seen good evidence that the plating on the bayonet is original. With the first image it still looks like the plating is over defects in the finish. And I see what looks like a crack in the pommel. With the second image I seem to be seeing plating falling away from the button. And possibly a crack there as well. And with the third it’s hard to see for certain what is there. But if the plating was done over zinc corrosion that was being encapsulated, it might look like what I am seeing (the same kind of thing can happen with steel and rusting). My opinions being offered with the understanding, that at the level of detail I can see, that is what it looks like from my perspective. FP

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