Here's some photos of an Imperial Bayonet. Appears to have 2 makers marks. Spine is dated 18 with a Wilhiem crown. Any information would be very appreciated. Thanks.

here is the 2nd picture.

Last picture.

Imperial edge weapons are known to have double maker marks from time to time. The most common I have seen have Erfurt along with something else. Your combination is a first for me. Looks like some body circumcise your grips ouch!

Agreed amongst the type II's they are very commonly "completed" by someone else... usually you have the blade blank maker and a completer like the State Arsenal of Erfurt or another commercial firm like this example.

This is a better mfg combo, though the grips are a negative considering the condition.

Bruce Karem has "THE BOOK" on this subject of type II variations and I hear he is doing his first reprint for those who missed his 1st edition.

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Originally posted by Dow Cross:
Imperial edge weapons are known to have double maker marks from time to time. The most common I have seen have Erfurt along with something else. Your combination is a first for me. Looks like some body circumcise your grips ouch!

Gentlemen, Thanks for your comments. They are appreciated. Regarding the grips--they appear to have never been stained much like late WWII German rifle stocks I have seen. Notice the blue on the grip screws--its perfect, if some idiot would have sanded them, he would have surely messed up this blueing. The wood is very dry--would you have any suggestions for treating it. Once again, thanks for your comments.

1918 Germany is not 1945 Germany; German mfg quality never dropped dramatically during the Great War, they did do significant substitutions in wood though I have never come across a 1918 dated type II like this, - I own half a dozen 1918, owned dozens more & seen hundreds over the years and I doubt this is how the grips were issued.
1915 type II usually have nicer grips though all I have seen have a similar appearance with some 1918 perhaps slightly less attractive/finished, nothing as dramatic as this example though.
The 2nd to last pictures shows some abrasion- imo mostly from sanding the rust off the cross piece w/o removing the grips?
IMO this is a chemical cleaning result though from pictures I can only guess. I have seen such results on rifles all the time, my interest in the Gewehr98 & 98a and this harsh cleaning of stocks looks much like this on your grips.

Personally I never try to “fix” chemical or sanding as it usually makes things worse… replacing the grips is a possibility though fit is usually a large problem (rarely worth it if the grips are decent enough & original to the bayonet).
Herder/EIG is a good mfg and I would keep it as is until I could upgrade it, - if you try & fix it you’ll probably make it worse and make it harder to get good $$ out of it, further if you alter it you’ll make it worthless in a trade to a knowledgeable collector and you won’t be able to use it in a trade.