Yes saw the black one on line somewhere..
Recently [last 5 yr or so] a bunch of these Luft rank 'Gull' rings have been showing up in all the Luft colors everywhere,,And,,1 to 3 gull rank.. Some of the better counterfeits have a very hard fake 'enamel' epoxy in the cartouche so be
very careful..
We all know what to look for to
start right?!? Good detail ,,real enamel,,thin band most of the time tapered,, polished inner band,, good overall finish,,No faults,,too many spurious hallmarks..
Ric , thanks for the warning your saving some their very hard earned money.!..