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Posted By: Stud Totenkopf ring 1938 - 11/25/2021 09:29 PM
SS-Obersturmführer Herbert KAACK


SD - Sicherheitsdienst

Ring date: 9.11.38


SS No. 36159
NSDAP: 459 381
Born: 31.7.1908 – Kiel
Died: 21.06.1947 - prisoner camp " Kriegsgefangenen
 Sewastopol "

Service :
DAL 1937 – SS-Untersturmführer SD-Hauptamt
DAL 1938 – SS-Untersturmführer SD-Hauptamt ( Ring )


Rank :
SS-Untersturmführer in 9.11.1937
SS-Obersturmführer in 20.4.1939


( The ring was fond by metal detector Czech Rep. 2021 )

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Posted By: Evgeniy Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 11/26/2021 09:42 AM
super, 38 year IMO rare period
Im too have ring 38 year
Posted By: Stephen Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 11/26/2021 10:31 AM
That’s a nice ring, what a find. If Kaack died in the Crimea, does anyone know how his ring ended up in the Czech Republic?
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 11/26/2021 05:43 PM
S VB,,,,, That is a great question...

He might have been at one time in CZ Rep. near wars end or time of surrender and ditched it... The Soviets were brutal and moved , tortured, questioned/interrogated etc. men from place to place, and then he finally died when moved to Crimea in 1947....

Maybe some more detective work could be done. Find out where his units service time was being done etc. IF, if he was nowhere around CZ then you got a mystery!
Posted By: Stud Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 11/26/2021 07:13 PM
Good evening Gaspare.

Personally, I think the ring was thrown away before it was captured. As many other SS officers have done. Not all soldiers and officers ended up in American captivity. Many were unlucky and ended up in Russian captivity. Finding out where he was at the end of the war will probably be more difficult. In May, many SS units were located in the Protectorate and retreated under the command of SS Gruppenführer Carl Friedrich von Pückler-Burghauss to the US zone.

Here is a document in which the status of SS units in the protectorate months before the end of the war. The document comes from the archive.

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Posted By: Vern Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 11/26/2021 07:22 PM
Quite interesting to read. Thanks!
Posted By: Sarcasmos Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 11/27/2021 04:51 PM
Very nice original ring! If I remember correctly there was some confusion regarding the owner of the ring as all that is legible in the engraving is "aack"
Posted By: benten Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 11/28/2021 04:06 PM
Thank you for posting this ring and info !
Posted By: Stud Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 05/17/2022 11:21 AM
A little more information about Herbert Kaack

Herbert Kaack

NSDAP Number : 459 381
Date of NSDAP Entrance : April 1931
SS Number : 36 159
Date of SS Entrance : 04.07.1933
Date of birth : 31.07.1938
Place of birth : Kiel
Date of death : 21.06.1947
Place of death : Kriegsgefangenen Sewastopol
Religion : er. ( Gottglaubig )
Profession : kaufm angestellter / SS Fuhrer
Marital Status : Married
Wife : Frieda Voss
Height : 1,79 m
School : Volkschule 8 Kl.
Driving licence : 3 Kl.
Practical skills : Sport und schiesslehrgang - Lockstedt (1932 )
Im SD Stabsdienst

SS Service Ranks :

SS-Anwarter ( 04.07.1933 )
SS-Scharfuhrer ( 07.11.1933 )
SS-Oberscharfuhrer ( 20.04.1935 )
SS-Hauptscharfuhrer ( 20.04.1936 )
SS-Untersturmfuhrer ( 09.11.1937 )
SS-Obersturmfuhrer ( 20.04.1939 )
SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer ( 20.04.1941 )

Service Summary
1931 – 1933 SA ( Truppfuhrer )
Kopfverletzung strassenkampf NSDAP April 1932
1933 Hilfspolizei ( 4 monate )
1933 Stab RFSS SD
1934 SD Hauptamt
1936 SD-Oberabschnitt Nord
1937 SD-Hauptamt
1938 SD Sicherungsstab West
1939 SD Sicherungsstab Trier
1940 SD Sicherungsstab Wiesbaden
1941 SD-Hauptamt
1944 SD-Leitabschnitt Stettin ( IdS )

1934 Leiter der Reichszentralkartei
1937 Mitarbeiter im Sicherheitshauptamt
1939 Referent in das Sicherheitshauptamt
1944 IdS - Inspekteur der Sicherheitspolizei und des SD

Awards
SS Ehrenwinkel der Alten Kampfer
SS Julleuchter
SS Totenkopfring
SS Civilabzeichen ( Number. 23 238 )
Lebensborn

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Posted By: Stud Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 05/17/2022 11:25 AM
Documents

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Posted By: Stud Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 05/17/2022 11:28 AM
IdS Stettin 1944

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Posted By: Gaspare Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 05/18/2022 09:41 PM
Yeah nice! I remember some of Dons early CoAs would have a 'die struck ring' or similar. And now ,,he doesn't mention it at all. Many years ago the HR was a neich [spelling?] collectable .. So rare a thing many hadn't seen one and knew nothing about them. Don Did do the early leg work and I'll never take that away from him..
But now,,,well, he's going by looks ,,,like everyone else... He can't write a ;Nice die struck ring by Otto Gahr' etc etc.anymore,,,,

,,well anyway..

Congrats on finding all the paper.. It certainly is interesting,, and definitely adds to the value to the ring even if the guy is a paper pusher.... Great catch on the ring and nice work on the research.....,G.
Posted By: Tanker Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 05/20/2022 05:16 PM
Wow, Don's COA is 350.00!
Posted By: Sarcasmos Re: Totenkopf ring 1938 - 05/20/2022 07:33 PM
Very nice research Stud! Very interesting history to a very interesting ring. An SD man no less, you would not have wanted to be on this guys bad side! As for the COA, the price is a bit ridiculous if you ask me, I am confident enough in my abilities to tell an authentic ring to be comfortable making a purchase of a TK ring without spending lots of money for someone else to tell me what I already know, and I highly recommend everyone does their own research so that they can save their $350 on COAs. Shoutouts once again to Antonio who wrote an amazing book about the subject!
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