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Posted By: Enthusie Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 05:48 PM
Hi friends,

Do you have any idea what this ring is? Is it fake or genuine?

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Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 06:58 PM
Imho fantasy piece.
Posted By: Enthusie Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 07:15 PM
Think so, but isn't it beautiful?
Posted By: Stephen Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by Mike (aka Byzanti)
Imho fantasy piece.

I agree with Mike. <Gott mit uns> means <God with us>, hardly a Nazi sentiment! This one is a dud, I reckon.
Cheers,
Stephen
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 07:52 PM
Actually Gott mit uns although an old German military slogan was very much part of the Wehrmachts identity. It was omnipresent on everything from patriotic army posters to belt buckles. The potential irony of it has no doubt fascinated historians and collectors alike for years.
Posted By: Enthusie Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 07:53 PM
Although I agree with you, but the phrase "Gott mit uns"was one Wehrmacht belt buckles and also in Gestapo logo, as far as I know.
Posted By: Stephen Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Mike (aka Byzanti)
Actually Gott mit uns although an old German military slogan was very much part of the Wehrmachts identity. It was omnipresent on everything from patriotic army posters to belt buckles. The potential irony of it has no doubt fascinated historians and collectors alike for years.

Thanks for educating me. I dont know much about anything other than rings and I never saw any mention of God on a TR ring before. Ironic indeed, given the Nazi rejection of religion.
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 09:03 PM
I am not sure I have seen it in a TR ring either, imperial definitely. I think largely nazi ideology was more politically oriented, but the SS were the ones that really began the cultural revolution in terms of a neo pagan amalgam of (quite obviously) non Christian beliefs. I can imagine the pretty hardline Roman Catholics of southern Germany truly despised the ss religious ideologies.
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/03/2019 11:29 PM
nice looking but a 4th reich product..

- a take off of the Police piece...

It has some nice pebbling on it... Is there paint? or black 'enamel' in the cartouche.?.

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Posted By: Enthusie Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/04/2019 05:28 AM
Seems you are right Gaspare, everything resembles this buckle!

I don't know whats that, looks like to be enamel around the swastika, but around the words, I dont know. This pic was sent by a friend to me.
Posted By: Evgeniy Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/04/2019 09:36 AM
yes, fantasy and there can be no other opinions ...
Posted By: Enthusie Re: Ring with Hakenkreuz - 03/04/2019 05:35 PM
Thank you friends!
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