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Posted By: Sergey 65 Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/25/2017 09:18 AM
Hi all,

what do you think about this ring? Your opinions please.

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Posted By: Sergey 65 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/25/2017 09:19 AM
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Posted By: odal Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/25/2017 06:54 PM
From that what i see on this pics a ring that i would like.
Hard to get pattern.
No faults visible for me.
And although its wearing one of the best of this pattern i have seen.
Posted By: Sergey 65 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/25/2017 08:25 PM
Hi Odal,

many thanks for you opinion. This manufacturer 'Frey' had two types of hallmarks. Small and large as in the photo above.
A large hallmarks is an earlier period IMO. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Best regards,
Sergey
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/25/2017 08:40 PM
Eagle looks great too
Nice ring sergey
Posted By: odal Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/25/2017 08:51 PM
Laurin mark came in 34. The observers badge 35. So this ring is for sure post januar 1935.
Posted By: Sergey 65 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/25/2017 10:24 PM
Originally Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti)
Eagle looks great too
Nice ring sergey


Thanks Mike.
Posted By: Sergey 65 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/25/2017 11:11 PM
Originally Posted By: odal
Laurin mark came in 34. The observers badge 35. So this ring is for sure post januar 1935.


Sorry, Odal, but you misunderstood me. I was referring to two different types of "835F. * Ln ". The mark that is above can only be viewed through the magnifying glass, the mark that is below is clearly visible to the naked eye. The mark below, I think of an earlier period IMO.

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Posted By: Militarynut Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/26/2017 08:46 AM
hi sergey 65
great looking luftwaffe frey signed ring has all the right wear in the right spots thanks for posting this great piece of german history for us guys here on the forum looks like every body agrees its a good one listen please stay safe over there have a nice christmas holidays see you next year god bless you and family andy militarynut
Posted By: The_Collector Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/26/2017 09:59 AM
Looks to be a nice quality genuine ring , superb
Posted By: Sergey 65 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/26/2017 11:28 AM
Originally Posted By: Militarynut
hi sergey 65
great looking luftwaffe frey signed ring has all the right wear in the right spots thanks for posting this great piece of german history for us guys here on the forum looks like every body agrees its a good one listen please stay safe over there have a nice christmas holidays see you next year god bless you and family andy militarynut


Hi Militarynut,

many thanks for your comments and good wishes. I wish you and all the finger rings collectors of the happy hunting.

Best regards,
Sergey
Posted By: odal Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 11/26/2017 05:04 PM
Originally Posted By: Sergey 65
Originally Posted By: odal
Laurin mark came in 34. The observers badge 35. So this ring is for sure post januar 1935.


Sorry, Odal, but you misunderstood me. I was referring to two different types of "835F. * Ln ". The mark that is above can only be viewed through the magnifying glass, the mark that is below is clearly visible to the naked eye. The mark below, I think of an earlier period IMO.


Now i see you Sergey.
Mmmmh.
In moment impossible for me to date the markings sure.
And there are at least still 2 more styles of markings made by Frey.
Posted By: BigMike09 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 04:16 PM
I saw this ring on another forum that has the similar markings. I can't make out a LN on it though, but it appears to have a half circle. I'm guessing by the price alone that this ring may have some issues. I am relatively new to Rings, do they copy the 835f* LN pattern a lot?

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Posted By: BigMike09 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 04:17 PM
I also noticed the half circle on the paratrooper ring, is jot exactly a half circle, it's a little misshapen.
Posted By: sniper33 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 05:10 PM
This ring is considered a copy.
Posted By: BigMike09 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 05:29 PM
I thought it was too, my friend almost purchased it, it's scary how good some of the copies are.
Posted By: sniper33 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 05:39 PM
You're right. Copies of these rings are very good. I myself burned on one of these copies ....
Posted By: BigMike09 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 05:42 PM
Are there any obvious flaws on that one? The price is what made me suspicious, and the mark looked close but just a little off.
Posted By: sniper33 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 06:23 PM
He was compared by a well-known collector with his original rings. And his verdict is that it's a copy. He held it in his hands. Believe me, if it was an original ring, it would have been bought a very long time.
Posted By: BigMike09 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 06:39 PM
Do you know what the differences were? Just curious.
Posted By: sniper33 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 06:51 PM
I only know that the ring is cast and the sizes with the original are the same
Posted By: BigMike09 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 07:20 PM
I thought that might be the case I just saw no obvious cast marks from the photos.
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 07:33 PM
Its a decent copy.. but in hand or better photos we would see plenty of problems..
On the outside I see problems with the leafs,,,bigger is - The hallmarks. Even with the small photo you can see they are cast in.. It also helps to know what they are. The last mark [semi circle] is supposed to be a 'Ln' mark.. Early it was stamped in to show the ring was of high quality, hand inspected etc. This one,,,there is just the space,,nothing inside!
Posted By: BigMike09 Re: Luftwaffe Beobachterringe - 03/08/2018 10:22 PM
Thanks a Gaspare!
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