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Posted By: DAK1941 Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/17/2016 01:08 AM
Here is a recent pickup of mine that I'm trying to get some info/opinions on. This is a silver ring with a stylized 3D Devil face on the front. It is marked Iran 1944 with niello palm tree motifs on the side. It is almost identical to the other pictured rings other than composition(silver vs. Brass). I have seen a couple of these listed as German rings, although there sure weren't any Germans in Iran in 1944. I personally am leaning towards it being an unofficial unit insignia. If anyone has any insight or opinions, I would welcome them.

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Posted By: Gaspare Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/17/2016 05:33 AM
Well don't know about the Iran example but I can tell you the others are a know pattern for a unit.. But what unit!

I have heard / seen :
9th SS-Panzer Abt. 102 [502] , and
Stg. Brigade 209.

Many years ago I received one directly from a German vets family. It is like the last 3 examples shown here in a weird brass alloy..
He was in Panzer Rgt. 31.. I've seen the same one as mine also attributed to the same regiment and had red paint in the eyes.

There are sites that show units emblems, mascots , etc. Do a search and you'll see these devils or just the face all with the horns..

Maybe one of them were with the DAK [?]

DAK41,, on my screen your ring almost looks like its aluminum! Maybe from cleaning too much from somewhere down the line[?] Is there a content mark?
Posted By: DAK1941 Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/17/2016 06:08 AM
So they(at least the brass ones) are indeed German! Very interesting, and all the more confusing about mine. I did indeed polish it, as it was jet black when I got it. The good part of that was it exposed the initials R.A.H. engraved underneath. It has no content marks, Iranian and Iraqi silver from that time generally doesn't, but I acid tested it as low grade silver, around .800. I did google it, and the only results I found are the other pics I posted. Mine is certainly Allied, but the face is almost identical to the German ones.
Posted By: DAK1941 Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/17/2016 06:09 AM
I would love to see more of these, if anyone has one in their collection to post.
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/18/2016 03:25 AM
My example is at a safe house in my town.. During the week I'll try and get a shot of it to post..

*DAK,, click on this link,.then on- Menschen, Cartoons, Körperteile - and you'll find some devils/heads.

www.wwiidaybyday.com/emblems/heer/emblems1main.htm


Also,,go to bottom of that page and click 'zuruck',,go to 'Cartoons' then to 'Menschen' and check out devils head for 9./J.G. 54
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/18/2016 04:00 PM
The safe house aka "the vault!"
Posted By: DAK1941 Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/20/2016 01:20 AM
I agree, G, it certainly looks like that devil head, although there were others it resembled as well.
Posted By: odal Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/20/2016 05:03 AM
A question to this first ring.
Did the Iran exist to this times?
We here in germany said always Persien/Persia.
Posted By: DAK1941 Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/20/2016 05:46 AM
Persia changed its name officially to Iran in 1935, on the advice of the Iranian ambassador to Germany. Most of the WW2 period rings I have say Iran, but a few say Persia.
Posted By: odal Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/20/2016 12:26 PM
Originally Posted By: DAK1941
Persia changed its name officially to Iran in 1935, on the advice of the Iranian ambassador to Germany. Most of the WW2 period rings I have say Iran, but a few say Persia.


Thanks
I learn every day
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/25/2016 04:40 AM
was by my rings today and took some shots.. I try to keep all my unit rings together. Here's a few including our Devil head:

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Posted By: Gaspare Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/25/2016 04:42 AM
I'm almost certain my ring had a silver wash to it...

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Posted By: Gaspare Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 09/25/2016 04:44 AM
the silver wash stuck to the solder joint better than the ring,,or that is the solder!

Anyone else with one??

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Posted By: hapur Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 10/03/2016 08:47 AM
Originally Posted By: Gaspare
the silver wash stuck to the solder joint better than the ring,,or that is the solder!


This is silver solder.
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 02/05/2017 09:51 PM
Saw this for sale too- a British ww1 ring w a gargoyle face - 1st glamorgan yeomanry. Dear God it's ugly as sin, but interesting! (Not for me, though...)

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Posted By: DAK1941 Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 02/05/2017 10:10 PM
You aren't kidding, that's one ugly mug. I was watching the same auction, but it is WW1 for sure, and not my cup 'o tea. Interesting in it's similarity though. I did manage to pick up one of the other devil rings, and G was right, they were originally silvered brass. Mine has about 20% of the finish left.
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 02/05/2017 11:04 PM
Post that bad boy!!
Posted By: DAK1941 Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 02/05/2017 11:17 PM
Most of the remaining silvering is along the sides and back, top of horns and recessed areas.

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Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 02/05/2017 11:38 PM
Looks exactly like mine. Cool ring
Posted By: Kl4us Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 06/22/2022 12:18 PM
I also have a devil's head in silver brass but with red eyes .. instead, do you still have this silver one?
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Devil Face ring opinions wanted - 07/12/2022 12:13 AM
K14us , welcome to the forum... Yes the standard one was silvered 'messing' with red paint dot eyes..
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