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Posted By: svenga Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 12:13 AM
Spotted on the controversial social website..

Apparently one of the largest collections of rings in the world.. Can anybody here beat this?

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Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 12:34 AM
What the heck??? Who is this?? There's like a dozen ss rings! That's a ton of rings!
Posted By: svenga Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 12:47 AM
The owner stayed anoyminous! To avoid being plagued.

I'd deffinately take pride, Apparantly it's a collection of 20 years.

He is Russian, that is all we know. So many patterns!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 01:00 AM
WTF!!! That's just crazy.....we search all year for one or 2 of those!!! And look how the guy treats them scooping them up with no regard....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 01:01 AM
at least we know where all the rings are now.....i'v seen these cases before somewhere.....
I love the ss/skull enamel in the top picture....absolutely number 1 on my want list, so so rare that ring is!!!
Posted By: svenga Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 01:09 AM
Well, this is twenty years worth.. And I bet the majority came from graves!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 01:10 AM
Karma will catch up with that guy if that's the case.....
And I think we can all agree that's not a normal 20 year collection! To even find that many authentic rings(if they are all authentic) let alone being able to afford to buy them! Very very nice collection! Wow
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 01:45 AM
I see about another dozen skulls I want lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 02:38 AM
Andy used to have one of those ss/skull rings in his personal collection, I missed out on it and he sold it to someone, maybe this guy.... I was drooling for that ring!! Lucky guy whoever got it, had another real nice SS enamel that got sold as well that I loved to! Man I could look at these pictures for hours!!!
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 07:02 AM
well, maybe not graveyard,,but battlefield finds....

I'm sure in each case there are some 'clunkers',,we all have them or at least some 'maybes' wink

I have over 100 rings,,and I'm sure there are members here also that have broke 100. But guys,,,its not quantity!, its quality! smile
Posted By: odal Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 10:11 AM
Very nice collection. I have seen it before.

I fully agree to G.

I myself own only Westwall rings about 70 to 80 different Patterns and i am sure there are much more out there. grin
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 01:40 PM
Great point G! He has some definite quality there as well!
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 01:55 PM
I am looking forward to that ww collection pic one day odal
Posted By: svenga Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 06:05 PM
The only positive point I can make is I have patterns which are missing from this big collection!

When I said graves I meant war graves, this photograph came from a page showing the amount of battlefield graves on the eastern front there still is, and the things they are finding amongst the skulls and bones still in uniform and helmet.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/20/2016 07:33 PM
Post the link! I would love to take a look!
Posted By: Evgeniy Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/21/2016 09:50 AM
I know him )))
Yep, it very big and nice collection
Posted By: Triggerself Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/21/2016 05:23 PM
Oleg is famous Russian collector and most expirienced ring collector (more then 25 years collecting) in the world with largest collection IMHO.
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/21/2016 05:41 PM
I believe he started with the breakup of the Soviet Union.. Also, having the largest collection doesn't make anyone an expert..

I've collected ring since the mid 1970s and I still make plenty of mistakes. We have a member here who has collected them from way before that! , again he makes mistakes like the rest of us..

Oleg I consider a friend and has contributed photos for my book project years ago. A nice guy and a wonderful collection...

The only way we will get ahead of the counterfeiters and add authentic pieces to our collections is together..
Only by sharing our experiences and knowledge will we get ahead..
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/21/2016 05:57 PM
Agree100% with Gaspare- I've seen a couple large collections That have some issues- know one that's largely made of repros and other problems it turned into a major headache then a big sell down (insisted in his ads they were real And insisted on valuing them at the price he paid - needless to say he dumped the crap rings and left the hobby!!) I'd rather have one nice rare piece than 10 iffy or crappy ones. My friends here all have run across some boners but on the whole have astounding collections and I hope I'm on my way!!! Oleg has nice rings for sure- one of the worlds great collections! but I'm looking at the individual pieces- not the number. I'm really rather impressed with (did anyone else catch this?)- odal has almost 80 unique ww PATTERNS??? How many WERE there???
Posted By: odal Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/22/2016 06:11 AM
Westwall rings
I know at least 10 to 20 different patterns i still not own and there are still more out there.
If you will count with the variations of this pressed glas stone rings (different colour/different band)for sure there are hundrets.
A area in collecting for itself. wink
Posted By: Gottlieb Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/22/2016 07:21 AM
The only question is whether enough of life to collect all of them :-) ?
Posted By: Mark4321 Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/22/2016 11:56 AM
Originally Posted By: odal
Westwall rings
I know at least 10 to 20 different patterns i still not own and there are still more out there.
If you will count with the variations of this pressed glas stone rings (different colour/different band)for sure there are hundrets.
A area in collecting for itself. wink
And you collect West Wall rings mainly Odal? But you also have other rings right?
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/22/2016 12:01 PM
Those pressed glass- very beautiful. That purple one was something...I kno Andy has A very nice green opaque. I'm concerned about the prevalence of free stones that existed not long ago.... But for me I maybe have 5 or 6 patterns and it's not my main focus- I like skulls! That's the one ww pattern I want!
Posted By: Mark4321 Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/22/2016 12:06 PM
Originally Posted By: Byzanti
Those pressed glass- very beautiful. That purple one was something...I kno Andy has A very nice green opaque. I'm concerned about the prevalence of free stones that existed not long ago.... But for me I maybe have 5 or 6 patterns and it's not my main focus- I like skulls! That's the one ww pattern I want!
Heehee, agreed: skulls are badass...
Posted By: odal Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/22/2016 06:17 PM
Originally Posted By: Mark4321
Originally Posted By: odal
Westwall rings
I know at least 10 to 20 different patterns i still not own and there are still more out there.
If you will count with the variations of this pressed glas stone rings (different colour/different band)for sure there are hundrets.
A area in collecting for itself. wink
And you collect West Wall rings mainly Odal? But you also have other rings right?


Oh no, i collect german military and patriotic jewelry of the III. Reich period, mainly rings.
Posted By: Mark4321 Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/22/2016 09:18 PM
Originally Posted By: odal
Originally Posted By: Mark4321
Originally Posted By: odal
Westwall rings
I know at least 10 to 20 different patterns i still not own and there are still more out there.
If you will count with the variations of this pressed glas stone rings (different colour/different band)for sure there are hundrets.
A area in collecting for itself. wink
And you collect West Wall rings mainly Odal? But you also have other rings right?


Oh no, i collect german military and patriotic jewelry of the III. Reich period, mainly rings.
Ah OK: that's what I thought...
Posted By: JoeW Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/27/2016 06:45 AM
Guess it's true. "He who dies with the most toys wins!"

Had a nice time at the SOS. Don Boyle was walking by the table and I invited him to sit awhile and look at my 30.6.34 ring. To my uneducated surprise, he told me it was a nice reissue from 1940. I thought it was a huge size at 13, but he remarked that he had one that was a 15. Enormous.
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/27/2016 12:27 PM
Love to see some pics of that early ring joe!
Posted By: JoeW Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/29/2016 04:08 AM
Here are a few photos. I am certainly not experienced at photographing rings. I had some fun with a digit microscope and produced a few photos here too. Hans Camp received the ring as an NCO. He became an officer in 1935. His SS file does not reveal a great deal of his service other than Allgemeine SS postings. The only "service" posting was a Feldpost Number that was linked to a Geheime Feld Polizei unit that reverted to the SD in 1942.









Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/29/2016 11:51 AM
Wow! Hey joe thank u for the pix!!! Now I love early rings, they are just unique in many ways! I'm not surprised to see a 13 in the allg ss- now a 15 size ring- that's getting really big- pushing goring size there! So I think your photos are great- I'm looking at the skull and I think (Gaspare please correct if wrong) those were cast and soldered to the die struck, then engraved and sized bands at the join seam where the solder was- these early pieces, more delicate or intricate designs- wider thinner bands- they wore out quickly-- this is remarkable condition for an early ring, heck - any ring! So the skull has in its right eye a casting depression? Or is that possibly where a stone sat? I'm noticing the difference between them and the teeth have that unique somewhat angular look to them- it's a tremendous piece joe- I'm green with envy but really glad you have shared with us-/ thank u so much!! Beautiful piece really - the crown of any collection!
Posted By: JoeW Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 02/29/2016 10:04 PM
Byzanti, it is an early date but as Boyle has written in the COA for me, the ring is a reissue from 1940s. Don't know about the eye socket but the digital microscope shows an awful lot of detail.
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 03/01/2016 12:04 AM
Interesting! Makes sense now why it's not as worn as I'd imagine!
Posted By: Gaspare Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 03/01/2016 12:40 AM
later pattern ring,, early date = reissue!

Joe,,fitting a police / SD guy! wink
Posted By: bartman Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 05/11/2016 05:05 PM
i sold my dak ring to a Russian 7 years back on the waff. could it be him??? can.t see lots of collectors of Nazi rings in the mother land
Posted By: odal Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 05/11/2016 05:31 PM
Originally Posted By: bartman
can.t see lots of collectors of Nazi rings in the mother land


Oh, they are around, but not all are in international forums wink
Posted By: Mike (aka Byzanti) Re: Huge ring collection in Russia - 05/11/2016 09:27 PM
Maybe we will get lucky and see some someday- the worlds private collections of militaria dwarf the greatest museum displays.... For example- I Got to see the coat us grant wore to Appomattox. Not in a museum. Amazing piece of history.
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