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Posted By: rieny RAD Leader Puma - 12/07/2009 09:11 PM
Hi, have someone a RAD Leader by Puma and can post some Pictures pleas?? Greetings
Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/08/2009 05:37 PM
No one here is owner of a PUMA RAD Leader or have pictures??

Greetings Rieny
Posted By: patrice Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/08/2009 06:15 PM
Don't know if Puma ever made those but I've never seen one by this maker. Confused
Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/08/2009 11:28 PM
I think they made, i had found one in an Auction in Germany and bought it. Wotan said its an original one, but i cant find any other...

Greetings Rieny
Posted By: Terry Pullen Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/08/2009 11:47 PM
Pictures would help identify and judge it.
Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:28 PM
Ok here are some pictures. I dont have any reason to question originality i only want to see another one to compare with....
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Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:31 PM
Nice Patination allover.....

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Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:33 PM
Complete blackening of the etched motto....etch is deep and had sharp edges. never polished or something.

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Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:34 PM
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Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:35 PM
Nice...

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Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:36 PM
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Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:36 PM
,.,

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Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:37 PM
maker mark, also etched and looks good for me.

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Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:38 PM
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Posted By: patrice Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 03:48 PM
Beautiful specimen and 100% original of course.
Never seen a RAD Leader produced by Puma before, a keeper for sure. Wink
Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 04:14 PM
Thats the problem, i have never seen one by PUMA and can't find another one! ;-))))

You know its allways better to have something to compare with.

Hope someone opens his "box of pandora" and shows another one.

Greetings
Posted By: Ed Sunday Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 05:21 PM
You proably won't see another for some time as this maker is rare to this dagger ! By the way as you already know it's a beauty Eek
Posted By: Serge (aka Wagner) Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/09/2009 05:25 PM
That is the first I've seen by Puma.
Sometimes that is all you will ever see.

Just goes to show the high "attrition rate" that our hobby has suffered through.
Since we can safely assume this being a production item, that Puma just didn't make one or a handful.
So where are the rest? Confused
It appears that the records of Puma did not survive the war.

There was only one or two Puma's found on a SS dagger. Dave H. has one of those.

Wonderful score there complete with nice hangers. -Congrats! Cool

-serge-
Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/10/2009 06:16 AM
Serge, the hanger is real nice and stamped with A for Assmann (Producer) but not complete, i am looking for the small clip of this hangers.
Posted By: Hellracer1 Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/10/2009 07:40 AM
Ciao Rieny,
It΄s a real beauty, I never see also a RAD leader with marker Puma before.

regards

Winfried
Posted By: Paul Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/10/2009 08:49 AM
Rarity wise, thats just got to be 'Top Trump'!!!
Beautiful

Paul
Posted By: rieny Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/24/2009 02:02 AM
If someone have an upper clip for the hanger, pleas contact me.

Thanks for all opinions and a merry christmas to you!
Posted By: WW2-Collector Re: RAD Leader Puma - 12/24/2009 02:25 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rieny:
Thats the problem, i have never seen one by PUMA and can't find another one! ;-))))

You know its allways better to have something to compare with.

Hope someone opens his "box of pandora" and shows another one.

Greetings


Problem? Not the way I see it - you have a rare beautiful conditioned dagger congratulations
Posted By: Matarese Re: RAD Leader Puma - 05/16/2012 09:01 PM
Hello,

Just to say I've find a Puma RAD leader dagger too. Here are photo of the seller. It's in a local vet son collection.
I haven't see other anywhere by Puma.

Opinion please.

JC

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Posted By: Matarese Re: RAD Leader Puma - 05/16/2012 09:10 PM
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Posted By: Matarese Re: RAD Leader Puma - 05/16/2012 09:19 PM
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Posted By: alien Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/07/2020 03:25 PM
Hey, everybody.
Dear colleagues, I apologize for my English and for bringing up the topic of ten years ago.
The point of my question is, did anyone else have this manufacturer?
In this book, Fisher.R.& R.NS Dagger Maker Trademarks, this manufacturer is not listed as such what these daggers were made.
This dealer has a Unter.
http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com/shop/third-reich-rad-em-hewer-30218/
Can someone explain how that can happen?
Best regards
Vitaly
Posted By: wotan Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/07/2020 09:47 PM
Hello alien, as in all books, which can be very helpful, there are also mistakes inside. PUMA is a well known maker for RAD Unterfuehrer- and Mannschaftshauer (and also leader hewers). I do have several in my files.
Regards,
Posted By: alien Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/08/2020 10:04 AM
Hello wotan,
Thank you for the answer. Could you show me some more pictures of this manufacturer. I'd really appreciate it.
Regards
Vitaly
Posted By: wotan Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/08/2020 12:34 PM
Here we go.

Regards,

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Posted By: wotan Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/08/2020 12:36 PM
The PUMAs, as some others, always did come without the RADL triangle mark but are without any doubt period done.
Regards,
Posted By: Billy G. Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/08/2020 03:28 PM
Beautiful Puma example Wotan. Odd how this and some others (CJ Krebs comes to mind) didn't have the RAD triangle.
Posted By: Paul Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/08/2020 04:13 PM
If we?re looking at unusual makers this one must be on the list

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Posted By: Dave Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/08/2020 10:13 PM
Very nice, Paul.

2-3 years ago Brian Maederer had an all-aluminum RAD leader ... except for the blade, grip plates, screws and maybe a scabbard spring.

Dave
Posted By: Billy G. Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/08/2020 11:13 PM
I remember someone maybe 10 years ago, might have been Johnny V., had a Holler RAD Leader that had ivory grip plates. That's something I haven't seen before or since.
Posted By: wotan Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/09/2020 02:08 PM
Hello gents, I have seen the obove mentioned makers and even more eg. A.EVERTZ, KARL TIEGEL, VOOS, P.WEYERSBERG, KRONECK (WITTE), ANTON WINGEN Jr. They are all nice, collectible and seldom to see but -for collector s heavens sake- who want to collect RAD leaders per makermark??? In 99,9% the fittings and scabbards are from only two manufacturers and only the various mms do add a nice feature. And don t mix up leader hewers and men/NCO hewers because not each mm which can be found on leader hewers can be found on men/NCO hewers and vice versa.
Regards,
Posted By: alien Re: RAD Leader Puma - 04/09/2020 06:15 PM
Hello wotan,
Thank you so much for the photos!
Best regards
Vitaly
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