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Posted By: darryl 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:23 AM
Hi guys,

I just acquired this near mint double-decal black Allgemeine-SS/SS-VT M16 helmet. It is a WW1 Austrian shell M16 with a reworked mid-1930's three pad liner and chinstrap....typical of the SS helmets from this period. Interestingly, the liner is stamped "1934" on one of the inner tongues.

This helmet appears in Kelly Hick's first volume of "SS Helmets - A Collector's Guide" on pages 39, 40 and 41. It also graces page 51 of Kelly's "SS Steel". My friend Shu will recognize this helmet as it used to reside with him in Japan up until a few years ago.

Hope you like... Smile

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Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:26 AM
party side...

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Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:27 AM
inside...

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Posted By: JohnTB Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:30 AM
Darryl you're off to an early start to another record setting year.
Congratulations,
John
Posted By: Oregon Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:41 AM
Hope you like... Smile

Oh, yeah. We like. Cool What a magnificent helmet. Great start to a new year and may it continue at the current pace.

That is the sort of item that could cause one to consider abandoning the intractable lure of combat helmets. Great piece.

Good job. Wink

Cody
Posted By: RoyA Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:44 AM
Superb Darryl!
Your continued acquisitions are amazing to say the least.
Roy
Posted By: Adam Kirchen Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:46 AM
I think I need to save a get maybe one of them. Errr. Anyways awesome helmet Darryl
Posted By: Bernie Brule Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:53 AM
Darryl, You never cease to amaze us with your "blackie" finds. Awesome my friend.
Posted By: pfschgo Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 02:09 AM
What a start..now where?
History writ large...takes the steam out of us fngs..man o man.
Paul
Posted By: Feldwebel Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 02:09 AM
Super and very rare helmet Darryl..Congrats,


Glenn
Posted By: ANDY BUTKUS Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 02:12 AM
Yet another amazing find...Well done my friend..
Posted By: RZM 499 Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 02:22 AM
CONGRAT ...A NEW BLACK BEAUTY INTO YOUR,S COLLECTION WOW WOW GREAT ONE Eek
Posted By: Anonymous Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 02:39 AM
Great start Darryl, no drought for 2006

Matt
Posted By: Larry Marcella Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 04:55 AM
Wow!
Larry
Posted By: Ken N Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 05:37 AM
fabulous....Utterly fabulous. 2006 is starting out with a real bang it seems!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 06:14 AM
Very nice, well done
Posted By: Ben.. Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 06:52 AM
Darryl
You are a man with a porpose. You mush have the greatest collection of Blackies to date..........................
BAR NONE

See Ya in Louisville.
Big Grin
Posted By: Anders L. Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 07:27 AM
Congratulations to an awesome helmet Darryl. Eek

Very nice start to 2006.

Regards,

Anders.
Posted By: mario Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 07:38 AM
I'm happy for you Darryl! your collecting
targets are so rare and hard to hit that I think that just the chance to spot one for sale must be pretty tough.really glad for you
Mario
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 07:59 AM
Another excellent find my friend, well done.

Cheers
Don
Posted By: Brave Wolf Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 08:08 AM
Ahhhh.. Eek Eek You rascal you.



Ulf. Big Grin
Posted By: tonym Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 08:17 AM
Superb helmet Darryl Big Grin
Posted By: Tom Kibler Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 09:35 AM
Darryl,

What a great score! Some day I would love to see the entire line-up. Well Done!
Posted By: Andrew H Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 10:29 AM
Congratulations! What a beauty!


Andrew
Posted By: Cees Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 11:54 AM
Terrific helmet Darryl. Congratulations with your newest find. I would love to see a family picture of your collection!

Cees
Posted By: Rev.Mike Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 01:35 PM
Good things come to good people. Congratulations!
Posted By: shu Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 02:15 PM
Congratulations, Darryl! What a surprise! Eek That was indeed an awesome helmet. Glad it found a good home! Wink

Shu
Posted By: Wolfederico Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 04:38 PM
MAGNIFICENT PIECE OF HISTORY. AND IN THE HANDS OF A GREAT COLLECTOR, CONGRATULATIONS.

All the best,

Federico
Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 07:17 PM
Thanks for all the kind words, guys...they are truly appreciated. I guess I should confess that I have been holding out on you all. There were actually two boxes waiting for me the other day. Hmmm...perhaps I should open the other box. What do you think...should I?? Cool

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Posted By: Ken N Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 07:49 PM
Darryl:
You are starting to sound like Monte Hall! Yes. I, for one would very much like to see what is behind curtain number 2 :-)
Posted By: Adam Kirchen Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 08:03 PM
It would be easier to just send the other box to me since it isn't open yet Wink What do you think. Big Grin
Posted By: Feldwebel Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 08:30 PM
Open the darn thing Big Grin


Glenn
Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 08:31 PM
Monty Hall...ah yes, another good Canadian boy from Winnipeg. Sorry for dragging this out, fellas. I'm just trying to make things somewhat interesting.

Ok, here's a cool piece of paper-provenance from the vet who "liberated" this next piece. Please note that I have airbrushed out the vet's name on the image.

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Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 08:43 PM
Here is the "SS helmet (black)" the vet found...a Q66 M35. This helmet was acquired directly from the veteran in 1985 by an established US collector.

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Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 08:48 PM
The other side. I won't be putting an image of the inside here on the forum. However, if anyone wants to see it this helmet is featured on pages 134 and 135 of Hicks' "SS Steel".

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Posted By: tonym Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 08:53 PM
My god that is nice, you`re tempting me Eek Eek
Posted By: Feldwebel Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 10:27 PM
Another killer helmet Darryl. I assume that you will be on a strict diet of hot dogs for the next little while Big Grin Wink

They could not have found a more deserving home.


Glenn
Posted By: Ty Smith Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 10:59 PM
Fantastic, as usual Darryl ! Big Grin
Posted By: pfschgo Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/24/2006 11:33 PM
Just keeps getting better!
Paul
Posted By: tuborg Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 01:46 AM
Darryl, very nice pick-ups that M35 is killer.


Your on a roll these days.
Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 02:01 AM
Funny how everyone tends to like the M35s. Personally, I like the transitionals better..they tend to typify the early SS and the Gothic all-black look. However, that said, I do believe the black M35s are much more rare than the "trannies". The trannies though are harder to find in real nice condition.

Here's a rare pic of a black M35 in period wear by an SS-TV member.

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Posted By: Oregon Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 02:45 AM
Eek You HAVE been holding out on your Forum friends. Bad boy. Big Grin

Nice helm. Cool

Cody
Posted By: Tom Kibler Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 03:06 AM
Darryl,

I'm in AWWWWWW. Two in a day....
Posted By: Ken N Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 03:11 AM
Wow....Anton Glaser's helmet is nothing....THIS one really takes the prize for the most interesting helmet shown here in recent memory.
Posted By: Peter_Suciu Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 05:58 AM
Wow! VERY IMPRESSIVE. Those are some jaw dropping helmets indeed.
Posted By: Mikee Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 06:18 AM
darryl,

Man o Man! super nice. Thanks for giving us a peek. Eek
Posted By: Andrew H Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 11:00 AM
Eek Eek

Speechless
Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 02:59 PM
From the cover of Andrew Mollo's classic work, "A Pictorial History of the SS - 1923-1945" here is a sea of black SS M35 helmets at Nurnberg. Makes you wonder where they are now.

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Posted By: Larry Marcella Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 03:24 PM
I know where they are.................they're all up in Canada at Darryls'.............. Cool Big Grin Wink
Posted By: Rob Sutton Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 03:26 PM
Awesome helmet ,great thing about these forums is you can share your lids with other appreaciative collectors .Rob.
Posted By: marc A Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 03:42 PM
most of them are repainted,

some killer lids you have,
never hold a black painted m35 ss

Marc
Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/25/2006 04:03 PM
Hi Marc,

Yes, it was a rhetorical question. Actually, the vast majority of black M35s were repainted feldgrau and reissued to the Verfugungstruppe (later Waffen-SS). Only a small number would have been held back in reserve for possible parade purposes.

Of the older transitional helmets, most of these (according to Mollo) were melted down for their metal and used for the war effort. Although you see a few of the WW1 style helmets in WW2 combat use there were not that many around after about 1940.

I believe Terry Goodapple has an example of a black SS transitional overpainted with felgrau paint for issue to the field troops. I have not seen nor heard of another.

Cheers,
Posted By: RZM 499 Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 12:51 AM
Confused Eek EekWOW WOW ANOTHER FANTASTIC HELMET.SUPERB.CONGRAT Smile
Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 12:54 AM
Here's another nice image of black M35 helmets being worn. This is from Mark Yerger's "Images of the Waffen-SS" on page 156 and shows a unit of SS-Totenkopf "Oberbayern" on parade.

Cheers,

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Posted By: Bernie Brule Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 01:19 AM
Another killer lid Darryl. Wow....
Posted By: shu Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 02:00 AM
Congratulations, Darryl! Smile Looks like your house now became a DEUITSCHE BLACK HELMET BANK. Keep it up. Big Grin I agree, the wartime necessity of recyling the black helmets into the field gray ones account for the ultra rarity of the black M35s. Long time ago I owned a Heer decaled rough-textured M35 with a rottenfuhrer name in the liner. It had black paint visible through its scuffs. I wonder where it is now. Should have kept it.

Shu
Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 02:50 AM
Actually, I only keep a couple here at the house...for fondling Big Grin. The others are stored at another location for safe-keeping. However, I have lots of digital pics here on the computer that I can use for reference and posting and such.

Shu, your old Heer helmet sounds like it was a very cool example...even better than the Heer/SS one I still own.

Cheers,
Posted By: Ken N Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 03:16 AM
From my collection of early SS portraits.... this original portrait of an SS VT officer wearing one of the combat M35s painted black.

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Posted By: pfschgo Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 03:24 AM
Is it me, or does he look like that genius from Star Trek?
Paul
Ahem...Ken....I'm new to this forum, but shouldn't he be wearing an ear-cut-out?
Posted By: Anders L. Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 06:49 AM
Darryl,congrats again.What a fantastic helmet!!
I also like the transitionals best,but this one
is Eek Eek Eek.
Really hope to have one in my collection someday.
I have only seen and hold one example in my life
,and it was way to expensive for me then.

And Welcome to the forum Frank,i know we have "meet" before here in cyberspace.
Nice to see you here too.

Regards,

Anders.
Posted By: darryl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 01:16 PM
Yes indeed...it's nice to see Frank finally posting here. I have known him for a long time and he is one of the good guys in this hobby...a purist who loves helmets and collecting. None finer.

Hopefully we will be able to talk Frank into posting pictures of some German helmets from his great collection.

Wecome to the forum, Frank.

Cheers,
Posted By: Drapeau Noir Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 04:31 PM
Darryl as usual you got some stunning stuff....
My congrats!!!

Tom
Posted By: Tim R. B. Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 05:51 PM
Darryl, congratulations! Heart thumping helmets, would love to lay my hands on one of those M35's. Tim.
Posted By: prorege Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 06:51 PM
If anybody deserved to get these black SS helmets then they for sure ended up the right place, just beautiful! Smile
Posted By: Stephan Wahl Re: 2006 - a pretty good year so far. - 01/26/2006 06:55 PM
Most likely at the bottom of the ocean in the bow of some sunken freighter smelled down in 1946. LOL

Darryl you are amazing. Congratulations on your new acquisition(s). Unbelievable. Unbelievably unbelievable....[
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Originally posted by darryl:
From the cover of Andrew Mollo's classic work, "A Pictorial History of the SS - 1923-1945" here is a sea of black SS M35 helmets at Nurnberg. Makes you wonder where they are now.
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