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Posted By: blademan My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/29/2007 07:52 AM
Hi all,
Just traded for this helmet today. Would liket to hear you thoughts.


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Posted By: blademan Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/29/2007 07:54 AM
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Posted By: blademan Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/29/2007 07:57 AM
I was told it came from crete. Any ideas on value? Thanks in advance.
Posted By: Foamspoon Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/29/2007 10:32 AM
Blades,

Can we see some more close-up pics? What are the stampings?

Bryan
Posted By: SteveRay Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/29/2007 05:38 PM
Close ups of the decal, if there is one. Close ups of the makers stamp and size and close ups of the hardware on the chinstarps would tell everyone a lot.
Steve
Posted By: blademan Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/30/2007 04:04 AM
Bryan and Steve,
Thanks so much for your posts. I do appreciate your thoughts on the matter. I was going to post more detailed pictures but family matters interviened.

The story on this helmet is it was picked up by a British Soldier after the war in a Crete junk shop when he was visiting the battle site of his youth. He was taken POW by the Germans and obviously never forgot it. The helmet has been the family,until the collector I got it from recieved it a few years ago. Here are some more pictures:


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Posted By: blademan Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/30/2007 04:46 AM
Forgot to mention there are evidence of decals on this helmet. The camo coating is too think to determine if there ever where.

Thanks again for any help you can give me on this one.
Posted By: Foamspoon Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/30/2007 10:41 AM
Blade,

I hesitate to reply bc FJ helmets are not my thing but I do have some concerns. I hope I am wrong, I would love to hear more experiences FJ guys chime in.
Posted By: paulbear Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/30/2007 11:05 AM
Here is a similar FJ I just almost got burned on
CZ MANUFACTURE YESTERDAY and marked CKL 71 7775. THEY LOOK a bit similar

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Posted By: paulbear Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/30/2007 11:06 AM
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Posted By: nopoop Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 06/30/2007 09:08 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Bryan on this. These shots in particular shows what should be there but doesn't have the look of an original. It has it, but it doesn't look honest to me.

An attempt. But with the gauge of steel used in a repo's, it falls short.





My opinion only.
Posted By: Feldwebel Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/01/2007 12:41 AM
Helmets a reproduction (Czech)shell,liner,straps are all bad.



Glenn
Posted By: Tim R. B. Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/01/2007 02:14 AM
Sadly this FJ helmet is a Czech fake, looks like the dreaded footed 1 stamping. Nothing about this helmet is original.
Posted By: blademan Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/01/2007 02:32 AM
Thanks everyone for your great advice and time. Didn't realize the landmines out there. Just talked with the dealer that I traded with and he claims "we can work something out nextg week". I hope to get out from under this lemon.

Can you tell me what specific features of this helmet gives it away?

Thanks again for your great help.
Posted By: SteveRay Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/01/2007 04:19 AM
The footed one is a big red flag to me. Here is a picture of the ET71 that I have. If you will notice the 1 does not have a foot. I realize that there are some that will disagree but I have never held a real one with a footed 1.
Just my opinion for what it is worth.
Steve

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Posted By: Dow Cross Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 03:44 AM
I think blademan is eligible for the wound badge if he cant get his stuff back.
Posted By: nopoop Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 04:49 AM
As a point of reference look at the difference in Steve's photo compared to the posted example.

The gauge of an honest rolled edge is unmistakable. It hasn't been duplicated and probably won't be, taking into account the cost of machinery involved to roll heavy gauged steel. And having a high quality steel blank as a planchet.

But they HAVE added something that originals have that has been missing from reproductions.
Posted By: Stirnpanzer Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 11:54 AM
Also be aware the Czech fakes are now also being made without the foot on the 1 ....

Mark
Posted By: Ed Martin Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:35 PM
Here's one that has been sitting in the dark top shelf of the closet

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Posted By: Ed Martin Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:36 PM
I know (now ) the decals are in the wrong spot

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Posted By: Ed Martin Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:37 PM
Inside

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Posted By: Ed Martin Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:38 PM
Edge and #

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Posted By: Ed Martin Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:39 PM
Chin strap

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Posted By: Ed Martin Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:42 PM
Other half of strap.Eagle decal is hard will not scratch.It has been repainted,and shield is hand painted.Bought at 11:00 P.M. in the dark with out any knowledge and no booksBig Grin

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Posted By: Stirnpanzer Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:55 PM
Moral of they story must be...

1) Don't buy helemts in the dark...

2) Make sure you know what the red flags are.. Big Grin
Posted By: Ed Martin Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:55 PM
Almost forgot Camo cover

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Posted By: Ed Martin Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 06:56 PM
Cover came with it

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Posted By: blademan Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/02/2007 08:51 PM
You guys are great! Thanks for all the great info. If I can get this thing returned, you guys saved me a bunch.

Ed, thanks for your pictures, sorry we are in the same fraterity.

I guess if we are swimming with sharks, every once in a while we get bit. We just have to be able to smim faster and smarter. With regards to this FJ helmet. I went out and bought a bunch of books before hand, but none of them said anything about the repro's. I should have spent more time on the forums before hand.

Thanks again everyone and I will let you know how it turns out.
Posted By: blademan Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/06/2007 02:43 AM
I told everyone I would let them know what happend with this repro helmet deal. I went over to the dealer's house today and I believe he realy didn't know it was bad, especially considering how much he had into it. He had no problem reversing the trade in full. Boy what a relief! I'll be more careful next time. Thanks for everyone's help. You saved me thousands.
Posted By: Dow Cross Re: My first FJ helmet, What do you think? - 07/06/2007 03:16 AM
Great to hear that for awhile I thought I would have to help you shake him down. Too bad no wound badge for now.
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