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Posted By: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) "Bleeding" diamonds? - 02/19/2007 09:06 PM
Gentlemen,

On several authentic late HJ knifes, I have seen diamonds from which the gold under the swastica is "bleeding" out of its square (see picture). I am wondering if these diamonds are replacements or if originals with this problem do exist?

Best greetings,

Herman


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Posted By: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 02/19/2007 09:09 PM
Another one


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Posted By: zorro Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 02/19/2007 09:43 PM
The whole knife MIGHT be suspect.
Posted By: nimble1 Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 02/20/2007 12:45 PM
I would think that since these HJ diamonds were produced in the thousands for various attachments that the quality control might not be as good as a fine enameled dress pin. I would not be too concerned about it.
Posted By: vintagetimenow Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 02/26/2007 04:13 AM
The metal of the square is higher than the surrounding sections to allow the enamel to be placed on the four surrounding quadrants. So if the metal square isn't perfect, the enamel accents the flaw. I think that's OK, your examples look genuine.
Best, John
Posted By: HJ-collector Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 03/21/2007 03:13 PM
Some of mine looks like that, too. Not that much maybe, but the same "problem". However, I am absolutely positive they are real, and I agree with John/vintagetimenow. I wouldnt worry.
Posted By: Fred Prinz - FP Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 03/22/2007 04:42 PM
In metal stamping operations for one reason or another defects occasionally appear in the stamped item which usually cause them to be sent to the scrap bin for recycling. Sometimes the defect is in the metal blank, maybe the press needs to be adjusted, or a die is beginning to break down etc. etc. And sometimes the flawed part is processed just like perfect condition parts and ends up in a finished product.

I don�t see anything particularly amiss with the first image. And while the second image is not as sharply defined, the emblem in it from what I can see also seems to be fairly normal. I would not be losing any sleep over either one. FP
Posted By: Colorado Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 03/28/2007 10:58 AM
Hi Gentlemen - First post since back from my sandbox deployment. I would like to see the rest of the knife before saying the knife is original. Cheers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 03/29/2007 08:53 AM
Great to see your back Jeff! Welcome home! JohnJ
Posted By: Colorado Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 03/29/2007 10:20 AM
Thanks John - I would still want to see this knife before passing opinion. It's not a "one-looker" based on that one shot.
Posted By: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 03/30/2007 07:51 PM
Jeff,

I did not ask opinions on a particular knife, just wanted to get input on diamonds that display this problem.

Best greetings,

Herman
Posted By: Colorado Re: "Bleeding" diamonds? - 03/31/2007 12:54 AM
Understand, but you stated that on on several authentic late HJ knifes you had seen diamonds from which the gold under the swastika is "bleeding" out of its square. To answer the question accurately it would help to know if knife you used as an example is an original knife before we state whether these diamonds are replacements or if originals with this problem do exist.
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