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Posted By: Mauser88 HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/25/2021 08:57 PM
Looking for some opinions on this dagger. Original or post war fake? I'm including lots of pictures. Thanks in advance for all your feedback.

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Posted By: Mauser88 Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/25/2021 08:58 PM
More pics

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Posted By: Mauser88 Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/25/2021 08:59 PM
More

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Posted By: Mauser88 Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/25/2021 09:00 PM
Few more.

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Posted By: Dave Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/26/2021 01:54 AM
I hope Ron W can help out here.

Dave
Posted By: wotan Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/26/2021 06:39 PM
Hello Mauser88, unfortunately dagger and box are bad to the bone. Not even close to an original one. Sorry for the bad news,
regards,
Posted By: Billy G. Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/26/2021 07:37 PM
Aside from the obvious scabbard differences, I see several other differences from an original Horster. Some type of nouveau superfake?
Posted By: Mauser88 Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/26/2021 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Billy G.
Aside from the obvious scabbard differences, I see several other differences from an original Horster. Some type of nouveau superfake?

No idea. Can you please be more specific on exactly what you don't like?
Posted By: Billy G. Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/26/2021 09:57 PM
Two things that jump out are the thickness of the crossguard and leather buffer pad. As well as the details on the scabbard eagle. Compared to a period HJ Leader, there are more.
Posted By: Mauser88 Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/26/2021 11:32 PM
Originally Posted by Billy G.
Two things that jump out are the thickness of the crossguard and leather buffer pad. As well as the details on the scabbard eagle. Compared to a period HJ Leader, there are more.

Thanks, that's very helpful.
Posted By: wotan Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 10/27/2021 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by Billy G.
Some type of nouveau superfake?
Hello Billy G, I do know this fake since years. Beside the outer form there is no detail equal to an original HJleader dagger and the scabbard is even more a phantasy product.
Regards,
Posted By: Ronald Weinand Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 12/14/2021 04:45 AM
Not one I would want
Posted By: Ronald Weinand Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 01/02/2022 06:00 AM
These were considered bad many years ago and still are.
Posted By: Ronald Weinand Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 02/04/2022 03:41 AM
Well known old fake, including the case
Posted By: Ronald Weinand Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 04/06/2022 02:05 AM
Wotan hit the nail on the head, but want Dave to know I didn't miss his request just a little late. As I remember, these first appeared in the late 1970s.
Posted By: Dave Re: HJ Boxed Leaders Dagger - 04/06/2022 03:13 PM
Thanks Ron.

Your presence here is much appreciated.

Dave
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