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Posted By: okkultist HJ Anton Wingen opinion needed - 07/25/2012 07:31 PM
Hello genetelmen!

I need your opinion about this knife, please.

Thank you in advance.

Dimitri

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Posted By: okkultist Re: HJ Anton Wingen opinion needed - 07/25/2012 07:40 PM
Ups! Seems we posted same request with ALIEN (we participate in the same Ukrainian militaria forum)... Sorry...
The knife is an original early one by Anton Wingen Jr.
The diamond is a replacement: it should have the small version insignum but here a large one (which does not fit in the cutout) has been mounted onto the grip plate. It appears to be a diamond from a HJ badge pin.

Best regards,

Herman
Posted By: okkultist Re: HJ Anton Wingen opinion needed - 07/25/2012 08:03 PM
Thank you Herman!
Posted By: alien Re: HJ Anton Wingen opinion needed - 07/25/2012 08:49 PM
Herman, you can show one with such a stigma?
Posted By: okkultist Re: HJ Anton Wingen opinion needed - 07/25/2012 09:15 PM
Originally Posted By: alien
Herman, you can show one with such a stigma?


Alien meant "with such type of maker mark" I guess... Because most fighting was about this point. No one of us saw such kind of mark by AW before...
Here is another one with this very early, large "A.W.Jr" mark.

The same mark (without the "ges. gesch.") was also used on the very early eaglehead Hj' by this maker -> see pic 2

Best regards,

Herman

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Posted By: stingray Re: HJ Anton Wingen opinion needed - 07/25/2012 11:09 PM
Hi Herman
That's interesting Wingen in second picture,can you show us complete knife?

Regards
Stingray
Posted By: alien Re: HJ Anton Wingen opinion needed - 07/26/2012 01:35 PM
I doubt that this knife is original GJ
Here are additional photos of the icon and the manufacturer.




Hello Vitaliy,

Well noticed that there are some variations in the makers mark!

But this knife is not a copy but a nice original (except for the replacement diamond) and very typical Anton Wingen Jr made in all aspects: grip plate checkering, typical rivets, ...etc.

And here is the same mark on an early eaglehead HJ knife to assure you:

Best regards,

Herman

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Hello Ivan,

The most left one is the Wingen knife in question, next to it is another eaglehead -but mottoed- by Wingen, the others.. I don't have to explain to you. wink

Best regards,

Herman

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Posted By: stingray Re: HJ Anton Wingen opinion needed - 07/27/2012 01:09 AM
That's very interesting knife Herman,i have never seen one like that.
You think the diamond is mounted same way like a regular HJ ?


Regards
Stingray
Hello Ivan,

Yes, the diamond fits in the cutout and does wiggles. Grip plates are made of wood, and the diamond is not centered as you can see.
Another -even earlier- version of this Wingen HJ-eaglehead has the diamond integrated in the grip rivet near the guard, it has the same blade without the motto. I still look for one like that...

Best regards,

Herman

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