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Posted By: wotan Question navy daggers with de luxe scabbard - 04/09/2017 11:11 PM
Dear collector fellows! At least in german forums there goes the rumour that (most???) navy de luxe scabbards can be ordered nowadays and are faked.
Naturally today nearly all is faked. But let us examine.
I do not want to start with the more exotic scabbards. Let us start with the well known WKC scabbards, mainly the "owl motive" and a very similar brother motive.
Does any of you have the feeling or the proof that these two kind of de luxe scabbards are faked today? If yes, does have any of you concrete informations wherethese are faked and who does fake them. Also if yes, does any of you photographs of these suspect or for sure faked de luxe scabbards?
Thank you in advance, any opinion is welcomed!
Regards,
Posted By: dr73 Re: Question navy daggers with de luxe scabbard - 04/10/2017 12:58 PM
Here are some pictures of a scabbard that was discussed recently on a german forum. I would appreciate some opinions.

Danny

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Posted By: DAMAST Re: Question navy daggers with de luxe scabbard - 04/10/2017 02:39 PM
Here is one of the few versions of a original deluxe WKC scabbard...
Yes WKC had different patterns but that is not the issue here..
Yes, Tom W. has it for sale and it is a great example of one!!
http://www.wwiidaggers.com/39192.htm
Just look at it and your questions should be answered..
Posted By: wotan Re: Question navy daggers with de luxe scabbard - 04/11/2017 12:07 PM
Although I did not intend to discuss a special dagger, it is nice that we have here one of the several WKC variants I want to discuss (naturally you also can discuss this certain dagger here too). As said there is the rumour that these scabbards (eg this one and the well known owl motive deluxe scabbard) are modern fakes(!). I do have my personal opinion and will write it her (with kind of proofs) but this later.
@DAMAST, the dagger shown here is not the one of TTW.
Regards,
Posted By: dr73 Re: Question navy daggers with de luxe scabbard - 04/11/2017 01:44 PM
I would really appreciate your thoughts on this particular dagger Wotan. Thanks in advance!

Danny
Posted By: DAMAST Re: Question navy daggers with de luxe scabbard - 04/11/2017 07:59 PM
Hello: Wotan

On may 1st post I have a link that goes to Tom W. site..
Here is the link again below..

http://www.wwiidaggers.com/39192.htm

There you will see the dagger I posted about..
This dagger scabbard is a period original pre 1946 WKC deluxe version..
One of the few deluxe styles they made...
this scabbard screams period made..
... this one seems to have the same decoration as the one posted by dr:

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/28/Krie...ng__258528.html
Originally Posted By: DAMAST
Here is one of the few versions of a original deluxe WKC scabbard...

Just look at it and your questions should be answered..


My comparison, the thread starter does not have the quality of Witty's example. For me, it's a modern fake.
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