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Posted By: relics Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 02:45 AM
Here is a interesting one i have had for years.Sorry for the pics but could only show the blade.With pic size limit

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Posted By: relics Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 02:53 AM
few more i cut way down

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Posted By: Andy Mraz Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 03:49 AM


I am be no means an expect on engraved blades, but given the photos provided (admittedly closeups are a challange) it's curious that no in/out marks, scrapes or scratches are evident across the inscription, which suggests it was applied "recently". Typical engraving suffer some marring over the years. Again, I'm not discounting the authenticity, but a more critical examination may be worthwhile. Please, some smart subject matter guys chime in.
Posted By: anonymous 123 Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 04:40 PM
Hi Andy:
I certainly enjoyed vising with you at the SOS. I forgot to ask you something.
Do you know whatever became of Bob Hunter?
I've tried to contact him over the years without success.
Jim Modena
Posted By: Andy Mraz Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 05:08 PM
Havent spoken with Bob in a couple of years. Think he called me years back when OSU beat Alabama. Guessing he's still in Dublin California and hopefully doing well. Glad you made the SOS. It was great seeing you. MAX is only about 200 days out. Hope you can make it.
Posted By: relics Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 08:16 PM
The engraving is 100% original war time.The Coat of arms has also been traced to
major-General Hans-Georg Schmidt.It is his family s coat of arms.He was also involved in the plot to kill Hitler.My father in law brought the dagger home from WW2

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Georg_Schmidt_von_Altenstadt
Posted By: relics Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 08:24 PM
The blade reads Im Kampf allein ist Sieg - victory is in the fight alone
Posted By: Andy Mraz Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 10:11 PM

Given that confirmed provenance, that is one great find. Congratulations!
Posted By: relics Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 10:47 PM
Thanks a fellow over seas researched it recently and came up with all the findings.I tryed a few times over the years and never could come up with anything.
Posted By: relics Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/18/2017 10:52 PM
major-General Hans-Georg Schmidt family recently published a book on his war time service to.Of course its only in german i think.I am going to look into it
Posted By: Andy Mraz Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/19/2017 12:30 AM
With he family providing such a wealth of info, and an apparent interest in his service, perhaps a polite letter to them might be well recieved; seeking photographs of his dagger in wear and perhaps offering them the piece in the future. Treading a fine line to be sure, but an opportunity few are given 70 years have passed. Best of luck!
Posted By: Kevin (heers68) Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/19/2017 01:40 AM
Very correct looking and interesting piece!! Love that Wappen! best, Kevin.
Posted By: relics Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/19/2017 01:31 PM
Thanks !!!!! A fellow in Germany i know is trying to get in contact with major-General Hans-Georg Schmidt son.He was in the youth core durring ww2.He is 89 we dont know if he is still alive.But he has found his tel number and address.Hats off to the fellow in Germany i never would have found anything on that family coat of arms.
Posted By: wotan Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/19/2017 02:50 PM
Just for clarification, the inscription on the blade and the coat of arms is etched (not engraved).
Regards,
Posted By: relics Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/19/2017 03:09 PM
thanks that makes sense.although i don't know how either is done
Posted By: wotan Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 03/20/2017 01:09 PM
Hello, etchings are done with templates (or covering laquer) and acid, engravings are done by special engraving tools. These two are totally different manufacturing methods and do have totally differing looks.
Regards,
Posted By: Juckett Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 04/28/2017 06:57 AM
This is an interesting piece. I wonder why they made it orange though.
Posted By: wotan Re: Heer engraved Dagger - 04/28/2017 11:07 AM
Hello Juckett, let me welcome you to the forum.
Sorry, I do not understand your question, do you relate on the grip?
Regards,
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