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Posted By: Jim W Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/10/2015 08:16 PM
A friend of mine has this hammered naval scabbard and has become aware of some controversy over the hammered scabbards with a rear screw instead of on the sides.

Here are some photos. Can I get the opinions please.

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Posted By: stratocaster3 Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/11/2015 05:42 PM
Jim,
IMO it is a reproduction. To me it looks like an attempt at a Holler scabbard. Taking aside the fact that there are a number of things wrong to be a Holler, the quality and workmanship is simply not there. There is poor definition of the components. The gilt finish is funky, uneven using some cheap process. The chape is poorly soldered on. Look at the carrying ring lugs. They aren't even the same type. Holler was a fine company and would never let this kind of work go out. Again, my opinion only.
PM me and I will fill you in on the rest.
Best. Rick
Posted By: Flyingdutchman Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/11/2015 09:05 PM
... Vic and I agreed that these scabbards are not what we want for our collections.

Just an opinion.
Best;
H.
Posted By: Jim W Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/11/2015 09:10 PM
Thanks guys.

Anyone else?
Posted By: Flyingdutchman Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/11/2015 09:27 PM
Jim,

you know your stuff, is there anything we don't know? Some "... unknown unknowns" ? :-)

Best;
H.
Posted By: Jim W Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/11/2015 10:46 PM
No, it is as I have stated. I posted this for a friend of mine and I want as many opinions as I can get.

I never did study German daggers to the extent you guys have, so this is a good lesson for me and I suspect other collectors will learn something as well.

I will tell you that 5 years ago when I first saw this I thought the scabbard was ok.
Posted By: dr73 Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/11/2015 11:02 PM
I agree with the others. It's a reproduction.

Danny
Posted By: Jim W Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/12/2015 04:51 PM
Seems pretty cut and dry. As always I appreciate your candor.
Posted By: Oleg67 Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/15/2015 05:31 PM
I agree with others as well. A post war Höller scabbard.

Best, Oleg.
Posted By: Jim W Re: Navy scabbard, pre or post WWII - 02/15/2015 05:48 PM
Thanks Oleg.

We have listed this on worlddaggers as a questionable scabbard in the gallery..
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