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Posted By: rocky Navy dagger question? - 08/10/2013 02:28 AM
I picked up a Naval dagger & the tang is ground on each edge. I don't ever remember seeing ground marks on the edge of the tang only billet lines. Here is a pic of one side where it is ground & the other side is ground also. Thanks for any help.

Rocky

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Posted By: wotan Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/10/2013 08:33 AM
Tangs, especially from navy blades (which have to fit into a relatively small, fragile grip - due to the wood core) can and mostly (always?) do show heavliy grinding.
From These few and only showing a certain details pics I cannot see any red flag. Seems to be a WKC or unmarked blade?
Please show the whole dagger or when there is only a blade, at least the whole blade.
Regards,
Posted By: Flyingdutchman Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/10/2013 05:42 PM
... what Wotan is saying is not wrong, but maybe it is a little bit more difficult. We see this from time to time, even with Imperial pieces. In any cases these areas should show some age and patina.

If not it would always bother me, especially when I have nothing else to compare, like the matching numbers of nearly all parts one can see from a 1938 Hörster for example or on most Imperial daggers. If so, one should really compare the signs of age and patina on the entire dagger, they should match perfectly.
All these work should have been done professionally, not to rough. Most of these adjustements I've seen were done with a file, just a very few with a grind Stone.

As Wotan mentioned, we do need some better photos of the entire dagger w/o using any flash or at minimum from the area with the grinding.

Best;
Hermann
Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/10/2013 07:00 PM
Thank you for all your help. I will take more pics of the tang today without the flash. In the meantime here are some pics of the dagger.

rocky

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Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/10/2013 07:06 PM
Here are more pics of the dagger

rocky

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Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/10/2013 07:11 PM
Nick in the fitting.

rocky

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Posted By: Grumpy Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/11/2013 12:20 AM
I see no problem as to authenticity.
Posted By: byf41@aol.com Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/11/2013 01:54 AM
The 1st time I saw this fresh looking grinding on a dagger I was concerned . As a matter of fact I passed on the dagger . It was a G/O dagger . Since then I have come to realize that this can be quite normal . You have to analyze the whole dagger . But my point is that it can be acceptable to see this fresh looking grinding on some daggers . JMO
Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/11/2013 03:09 AM
Here are more pics that I said I would put on. Thanks for all the help.

Rocky

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Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/11/2013 03:15 AM
More pics.

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Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/11/2013 03:17 AM
More pics.

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Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/11/2013 03:33 AM
More pics of the blade taken outside.

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Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/11/2013 03:37 AM
Pics

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Posted By: Oleg67 Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/11/2013 10:53 AM
I agree with Grumpy. I also see no problem as to authenticity.
Posted By: wotan Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/14/2013 08:56 PM
rocky, as said, the grinding is no red flag. Find attached a heavily grinded tang of an EICKHORN of mine.

Perhaps it is the light of the photograph but is the grip the common wood cored celluloid covered grip?
Normally I do not recommend to disassamble daggers but as it was done already....

Regards,

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Posted By: stratocaster3 Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/15/2013 02:18 AM
There is nothing inconsistent with this dagger in terms of authenticity. Quit worrying and start enjoying your genuine example.
Regards
Rick
Posted By: rocky Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/17/2013 02:11 AM
Thank you for all your help. Wotan, the grip is the type with the wood insert. The reason I initially took it apart is because the locking button wasn't working. Someone apparently had it apart before me & put the button back in wrong. It is working fine now.
Thanks again,
Rocky
Posted By: wotan Re: Navy dagger question? - 08/17/2013 10:44 PM
A wood core grip is quite ok. So I also see not the least red flag concerning the dagger.
Regards,
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