Hello Keen collectors.
I have some Luft daggers into my collection.
This dagger pictured has a very spesial scabbard with "silver" finish all the way.
I got some info from 2 other well known collector this is a ekstra cost delivery for the customer ordering the dagger.

Is this type rarer than others ? What type of silvering stuff do the Germans use & why did they do this ?
Hope for some help and info

Regards LH 600

Here some pictures





reverse side







Makers mark.

U got something spesial there my friend

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Originally posted by carlos1:
U got something spesial there my friend

If not spesial,- its a sure "keeper" in my collection carlos

LH 600:

Definitely a keeper.



John

Beautiful blade on this edged weapon. Like they said above. Definately a keeper.
SSman

Seldom but from time to time you see this period feature.
Here my scabbard from a ZEITLER with the same feature (sorry for the bad scan but it´s definately silvering).
Regards,

Thanks Wotan for sharing pics.
Great scabbard.
LH

I believe they used both silver and nickle silver and sometimes you can find examples where the hilt fittings are also silvered. My Voos has a Nickle silver scabbard but the scabbard bands and hilt fittings are of the plain aluminiun type.

Nolan

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Originally posted by Nolan:
I believe they used both silver and nickle silver and sometimes you can find examples where the hilt fittings are also silvered. My Voos has a Nickle silver scabbard but the scabbard bands and hilt fittings are of the plain aluminiun type.

Nolan

Many thanks for the info Nolan. Do you have any pics of your scabbards ?

Here is a SMF with Luftamp "5" marked blade.
The scabbard is airplane grey with "Killer"finish. Look at the bands . They are aluminium type finsih...

the SMF is a beauty

Typical SMF.terrific gilding on pommel
and scabbard finish/contrast.Very nice one.
Seiler

Many thanks for fine words.
The SMF is better in real Carlos
You need a Luft dagger man

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Originally posted by LH 600:
Many thanks for fine words.
The SMF is better in real Carlos
You need a Luft dagger man

Do u have one for me

WOW nice daggers mate
Sean

Nice looking stuff there.
Here's my baby.

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The gilt on the pommel swaz is subtle, but it's all there.
The grip has a two tone pumpkin color, as if it were sun faded while on display.
All of the fittings are silver plated with background burnishing.
Hope you enjoy the pics.
Thanks for looking.

Very nice SMF Luft Robert.

These Luft daggers are really awesome and in my opinions one of the nicest "German type" of daggers made.
Is there some marking on the De Luxe hangar ?

Regards LH 600

Update this tread with some more Luft 2 pics

Here is a late typical Alcoso Luft with hangar.
Look at the orginal period scabbard finish .

Regards LH







Grip

Closer image

Especially the Luftwaffe 2nd model daggers (IMO) show some of the changes that were forced upon Solingen makers as certain materials became scarcer.

I don’t know who it was in the collecting world who first originated the phrase “airplane gray” to describe the use of gray phosphate as a type of metal finish. And although I remember seeing “airplane gray” in some sales catalogs - I’m also reasonably certain that that Germans never used that phrase.

With nickel, silver, zinc and zinc phosphate (matt finish) all being used depending on the item, time period, and maker involved. With, as they age, nickel plating (and nickel silver) having no significant color changes. Silver exposed to the atmosphere turning black. And zinc which tends to be a more muted silver color, becoming more gray. And zinc phosphate (as the matt layer wears away) exposing the zinc base layer.

That said, my compliments for some very nice examples of Luftwaffe daggers!! FP

LH 600,
Love that alcoso it's my favorite maker and a sweet blade to boot...NICEEEE

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Originally posted by Eric Wien:
LH 600,
Love that alcoso it's my favorite maker and a sweet blade to boot...NICEEEE

Thanks
I love that dagger very much to

LH

Here's a Pack/sigfried i once owned and another dagger i regret selling but had silver finish on all the fittings and scabbard.

Love this maker mark

Nice Luft Eric.
Have you pics of the blade to ?
I dont have that maker into my Luft II collection. Im looking for one in NM condition

But its landed two early Luft II in my collection today. A Mint early Herder and NM early G.Spitzer.
Thanks again Paul Hogle at the Lakesidetrader for helping me with these two pieces