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Posted By: Valkiria SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 08/28/2009 09:37 PM
Dear Sirs,

I would like to know approximate value for this collar patch I have. It's embroidered silver wire on the wool, backside has paper sticker with number.
I would be appreciated if someone help me

Posted By: bwanek1 Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 08/29/2009 02:20 AM
IMO a nice original.

Brad
Posted By: Valkiria Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 08/29/2009 05:53 AM
Dear Brad,
Can you tell me the aproximate value, because I don't collect them and all information I got is that this is a SS-TV officers patch, but all information about the value is unavailable.
Yours sincerelly,
Helen
Posted By: Mr. Jerry Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 08/29/2009 11:06 PM
This one doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. It could be fine, bu it looks a bit loose to me. I also don;t like the fact that the letter of the RZM tag is gone.

Maybe I am just paranoid... Eek
Posted By: Bob Coleman Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 08/29/2009 11:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Jerry:
This one doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. It could be fine, bu it looks a bit loose to me. I also don;t like the fact that the letter of the RZM tag is gone.

Maybe I am just paranoid... Eek
JERRY-
NOT PARANOID, JUST CAREFUL. I DO NOT LIKE THE CONSTRUCTION EITHER. MAYBE IT IS DUE TO THE FUZZY SHOT-ACCIDENT OR ON PURPOSE? NOW WHO IS BEING PARANOID!
Posted By: bwanek1 Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 08/30/2009 10:15 AM
Helen,

I must say that, upon taking a closer look, my learned colleagues are correct. In fact, the more I look at it now, the more amazed I am that I even considered it as possibly authentic. Most obviously to me (now), the right side of the skull and the jaw are entirely inconsistent with originals. I am sorry for making a snap judgment without giving a careful look. I know better than to do that in this hobby and I am sorry that, in this case, I did not give you the same care that I would have if I were examining something for myself.

Brad
Posted By: Mr. Jerry Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 08/30/2009 04:47 PM
Brad it is encouraging to know that you too are only human!

This is not an exact science, so anyone that says they never made a mistake is either lying to you or to themselves.

I am sure of this piece was unquestionably real she would have been flooded with offers to buy it.
Posted By: Josias Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 09/01/2009 06:38 PM
I don't like it either.
Posted By: bwanek1 Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 09/01/2009 07:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Jerry:
Brad it is encouraging to know that you too are only human!

This is not an exact science, so anyone that says they never made a mistake is either lying to you or to themselves.

I am sure of this piece was unquestionably real she would have been flooded with offers to buy it.


I will be the first to admit that there is MUCH that I do not know and that I certainly make my share of mistakes. However, when I am uncertain, I do not spend money. More importantly, when someone else is asking for help, I [normally] do not even offer an opinion on something if I am uncetain or I will qualify any opinion I offer if I am less than certain, because I do not play games with other people's money. I would never want someone to lose money because he acted on bad information from me. For that reason, I am angry with myself for not taking greater care here. I hope no harm was done before the record was set straight.

I have to admit that I moved quickly to looking at the RZM tag as a shortcut to determine originality. Those are pretty easy to identify as real or fake and I took the ****er's bait by going straight to that tag and overlooking this tab's obvious shortcomings. That tag still looks good to me, but I have been around this hobby long enough to have seen plenty of original tags stuck on fake items to know better than to fall for that old trick, especially when, as you pointed out, the letter code is conveniently missing!
Posted By: bwanek1 Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 09/01/2009 07:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bwanek1:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Jerry:
Brad it is encouraging to know that you too are only human!

This is not an exact science, so anyone that says they never made a mistake is either lying to you or to themselves.

I am sure of this piece was unquestionably real she would have been flooded with offers to buy it.


I will be the first to admit that there is MUCH that I do not know and that I certainly make my share of mistakes. However, when I am uncertain, I do not spend money. More importantly, when someone else is asking for help, I [normally] do not even offer an opinion on something if I am uncetain or I will qualify any opinion I offer if I am less than certain, because I do not play games with other people's money. I would never want someone to lose money because he acted on bad information from me. For that reason, I am angry with myself for not taking greater care here. I hope no harm was done before the record was set straight.

I have to admit that I moved quickly to looking at the RZM tag as a shortcut to determine originality. Those are pretty easy to identify as real or fake and I took the fool's bait by going straight to that tag and overlooking this tab's obvious shortcomings. That tag still looks good to me, but I have been around this hobby long enough to have seen plenty of original tags stuck on fake items to know better than to fall for that old trick, especially when, as you pointed out, the letter code is conveniently missing!
Posted By: Bob Coleman Re: SS scull collar patch for SS-TV - 09/01/2009 07:49 PM
A fake tab posted by a new member. Is this a seller of these fakes seeing if it can pass as an original? The only other reply is the "How much is it worth?" question. These kind of posts from unknown persons always makes me suspicious.
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