Hi guys.I just noticed that the "Collectors Guild" site is offering a Navy Hono.r Roll Clasp.Just a heads up.

Indeed. A very nice one!!
Good price too. I am interested.
There's another one at the ruptured duck, 100% FAKE!!
Dennys.

Interesting . . . could you point out, specifically, the differences between the "duck's" and the "guild's" clasps. ~ Ian

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Originally posted by bushido:
Interesting . . . could you point out, specifically, the differences between the "duck's" and the "guild's" clasps. ~ Ian

My pleasure Sir.
Take a real close look to area #1, see how much of the anchor is "cut" on duck's clasp and see that the Guild's clasp show the VERY SAME area of the "CUT" anchor on BOTH sides (symetrical as they should be), or better saying, the part of the anchor (both sides) not connected to the round oak leaves shown on Guild's badge are IDENTICAL. You don't see that on duck's clasp, this is just the first RED FLAG.(REMEMBER SOUVAL'S CLASP late 60's?
AREA #2 - Take a good look to the construction of the "cut" swastika to Duck's clasp and to the quality and details of Guild's clasp.
The flaw is so obvious....SOUVAL again?
AREA #3 - Take a look to the upper part of that anchor on Duck's clasp. TRADE MARK OF SOUVAL'S fake clasps!! Again, look for the quality as well on both clasps.
Speaking of fakes IMHO all clasps at duck's are repros as well as one eagle order he has there now for sale. You know, the one not cased with no ribbon, take a good look.
Thank you.

As I indicated I find this examination interesting as I too am very interested in adding one of these to my collection, so I popped over to WAF to see what they had to say on the subject and came upon this thread of an Honor Roll Clasp that they thought was OK:

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t...ght=honor+roll+clasp

It includes this photo which, and it must be these old eyes, I am certainly having difficulty telling the difference from the one above . . . I would really like to hear what others have to say and perhaps some could show photos of their Honor Roll Clasps?

Hello Ian.
Yes I saw the thread.
This one above is the same kind of fake Bill Shea has one for sale. Same style, same maker!
On this same thread, there's a link posted by a member with username JODY. He has one of those clasps. Only, HIS clasp is a real GEM, the REAL THING! Take a look.
I will post some more pics of real ones!

PIC-000 HERMANN HISTORICA

PIC-001 PRIVATE COLLECTOR

PIC-002 COLLECTOR'S GUILD

PIC-003 CRAIG GOTTLIEB
I don't like the angle from that picture, but it looks OK!

PIC-004 COLLECTOR'S GUILD again, and again original 100% item.

PIC-005 RUPTURED DUCK, BILL SHEA
FAKE.

PIC-006 PRIVATE COLLECTION
FAKE

I have problems with the images not matching up to the opinions stated on this thread. Specifically regarding the cutouts near the flukes.

I would like to see some solid evidience put forth to back up the opinions.

Would also like to see any out of the woodwork examples. These are quite rare.

Any period press release photos?

Accepted that cut outs below the anchor next to the wreath are repros, and centered eyes on the anchor ring are repros. None of these repros are shown here.


--dj--Joe

Thank you Joe! ~ Ian