Good morning all I hope all is well with you all.
I picked up an EK 2 M.M. 137 on the ribbon ring. J.H. Werner?
The packet that came with the medal was marked,
It was hard to read but here goes, Gottlieb Ko either H or II Gobel. Obersin Ahe ??
Any and all info. welcome,Thanks again Dutchman.

Gottlieb Roll und Söhne Oberstein a. Nahe ?

Hello derjager,I don't see the makers number on the the EK2 list? Thanks Dutchman.

Dutchman,

From reading, the maker-marked packets are known. No EKII has been attributed to this maker.
The 137 marked cross and the packet could be a mismatched pair. (?).
Do you have pictures?

"137" was assigned to J.H. Werner, Berlin. Gottlieb & Wagner, Idar-Oberstein was assigned number "52".

Pix to follow.Thanks again Dutchman.

Dutchman, did you ever get a satisfactory answer?

--dj--Joe

Hi --dj--Joe,I'll have to post the pix.Dutchman.

I do have another one I just pick up.It's hard to read.I'll send the pix of that one also.Dutchman.

Pix of the newest one.

I think this is the information on the packet.
Carl Knoblauch, Seidenbandfabrik, Berlin C 2, Post str. 23

Have observed one blue packet for the EKII ribbon from this manufacturer. packet was marked on the flap.

OK,Do you think mine is original or post war? Thanks again Dutchman.

Is the makers number #107? Thanks again Dutchman.

Number "107" was assigned to Carl Wild, Hamburg.

I can not reply on originality. I only have a small number of packets/envelopes. I have not enough research material on the subject.

Note - Seidenbandfabrik = Silk Ribbon Factory. Any numbered/marked award could be placed in a packet/envelope at some point in time.

Vern, how about a reference section on maker-marked paper packets/envelopes for medals and badges?

--dj--Joe

We have a gallery for LDO and Lieferant Codes. If they were officially registered, we have them I wonder if these are small operations that bought medals they didn't make from the registered makers and repackaged them for sale.

From research, Gottlieb Roll und Söhne Oberstein a. Nahe, marked packets are known. No EKII has been attributed to this maker, (manufacturer or distributor)?

Carl Knoblauch, Seidenbandfabrik, Berlin C 2, Post str. 23 was apparently a silk ribbon manufacturer. EKII ribbons? Packets with just the band/ribbon are known. Usually marked as such = (Band des).

--dj--Joe

This venerable old thread has a number of packet/envelopes and matching awards . For reference. Winterschlacht Im Osten 1941/42.
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=145029#Post145029

OK,So the EK2 #137 that came with the packet could have came as a set! Medal, Ribbon,Tissue paper and packet. Great.It came from a Vet's family member.Validating there story.

Have this set, EK is very dusty and nicotine stained but minty

For sale ?

Skynyrd,

Is the ring on the EKII marked 123?

--dj--Joe

Hi Skynyrd, No .But I do have a MM 123 Thanks Dutchman.