Will attempt to bring them together here. Post em if you got em.
--dj--Joe
Borrowed from an older thread I started that receives few views now. Pics. should do better here. --dj--Joe Not sure if I've shown these here or not, had them a while.
Cheers
Don
Reverses
Don, nice selection of Kyffhauserbund badges.
Have you ever seen the 40 year type II badge?
Here is an older image of what I have come up with so far. Obverse only at this time.
--dj--Joe
Nice badges Joe.
No I've never seen a type II 40yr, have you?
Cheers
Don
Don,
Thank you.
I do not recall having seen a 40 year type II.
--dj--Joe
Just dusted off my copy of Hüsken. They don't show a type II 40yr, so I guess that there wasn't one.
Cheers
Don
Hello, Don and Joe! Here is a quite large and heavy stick-pin. Slightly larger than a quarter! Ever seen one like this? Regards, Leipzig
back marked ges.gesch.
Nice pin. Don posted the 25 and 50 year on page one of this post. I also have the 25 and 50 year. Its nice to see these for comparision.
TK, Thanks! I looked back and saw the others! For a stick-pin, this thing is HUGE! Much larger than my others, quite "top-heavy"! Regards, Leipzig
Here are a couple sets of pins.
Hello,
Here's the few I have. Here's a 25 yr Reichkreigerbund pin definately not in the best condition.
Here's one for the kyffhauserbund. To be honest I don't remember exactly what some of these badges are and I started posting without going thru any of my ref materials so if anyone can put in any info on them please do. Thanks
Duzig(Bill)
Here's an enamelled badge for the kyffhauserbund I think it's a members badge but please correct me if wrong.I thought someone on one of the forums had said was pre war badge but again I really don't remember.
Here's the reverse of the badge:
Here's a shot of all of them I figured I'd post too. Can anyone tell me what the stickpin all the way to the left is for? It says 25 jahre.
Thanks
Duzig(Bill)
Bill, nice selection. They look good all together.
I have no knowledge of the 25 Jahr pin. Have seen others though.
--dj--Joe
The silver Der Kyffhäuserbund Seinem Kameraden I have seen referred to as Armel-Ehrenzeichen. Also a gilt version.
--dj--Joe
Joe, here's a quick shot of all the veteran organizations I have. The battery died in the camera. I'll post photos later.
Hello,
Joe thanks for the comment & info. Raymond, that's a hell of a group you have assembled there, quite nice! what is the item to the right of the NSKOV armband you show and also the item with the ribbon 4th from the left above the nskov armband? Thanks
Duzig(Bill)
Bill, you are most welcome.
Raymond, looking forward to seeing more shots. I too would like to see the plaque. 1st time see on the armband for me. Very nice.
--dj--Joe
I'll try and do all the Kyffhäuserbund items first.
Patch
back
Visor hat insignia.
Back.
I think I read somewhere this is another type of hat insignia but not 100% sure. It's been a busy week with work and the holidays I haven't had time to check before posting. Duzig, does yours still have the pins intact and any markings?
Back..
Makers mark. You can see where the pins are broken off just above the makers mark.
1st stickpins, enamel on left and painted on right.
Back of stickpins.
50 year.
50 year back
Stickpin without swastika. I'm guessing it's earlier that the ones with.
Back...
Bill, here's the medal you asked about. It's a service medal but not sure about the requirements to obtain it.
closer
Markers mark on ring. It's a little hard to read but looks like H.llMM BERLIN.
Back....
Here's the makers mark on the pin.ENT 1908
Looks like a arm patch. I'm guessing for a shooting award.
Back has just the material with no markings but does have a contore to it.
Reichskriegerbund items. Strip of patches.
Back of patches.
Stickpins
Back.....
Kyffhäuserbund Shooting stickpin
Back......
N.S.Reichskriegerbund visor hat eagle
1st eagle back.
mm
2nd hat eagle.
2nd back
mm..
Breast eagle
eagle back
mm...
4th
Breast eagle back
mm......
eagle #2
#2 back
#2 mm
#3
#3 back
#3 mm
#4
#4 back
#4 mm
Stickpin
stickpin back.
2nd pin
2nd pin back
3rd pin
3rd pin back
4th pin
4th back
Joe, do you want me to start a new thread for the N.S.K.O.V. items or here?
Some wonderful pieces there Raymond
Thanks for taking the time to show them.
Cheers
Don
Raymond,
. Great imagery.
Let's do NSKOV separately.
--dj--Joe
Thanks. I'll start a new thread either tonight or tomorrow. I have some of the items photographed but ran out of daylight. I forgot to say that the plaque goes on a flag pole. Not sure of the proper name for it.
Hello,
Raymond my apologies for not replying to you sooner regarding my kyffhauserbund badge, yes it still has the pin on the reverse but I do not see any markings on it. And thank you also for showing the medal with the ribbon on it. Very nicely done item. That plaque is quite nice too. Look forward to seeing more of yours and others collections.
regards
Bill
The only thing in my notes at the moment on the medal is 2nd. class Prussian Landeskriegerverband, Krieger Ehrenkreuz. Got to do some more research.
--dj--Joe
Anything to add to this informative thread?
Would anyone care to write a little on the history of these organizations? If so please do, it would be a good addition to the thread.
--dj--Joe
Bumped to see if anyone had anything new to add.
--dj--Joe
Dusted off for another look. Much to see on this thread.
--dj--Joe
Arm band with badge attached
Picture 2
A great old thread, although I'm surprised that the shooting badges aren't featured.
Here's some of mine....
Bronze & silver
Gold & the Meister...
The Gold isn't as bright as it looks, that's down to the glare of the scanner & the Meister has lost most of it's guilt. I should upgrade it really, there are plenty about.
I'll add some more later.
Cheers
Don
Nice set Don.
I wonder why no marks on the reverse of these badges? I don't recall seeing any marked examples and none of mine are. I'm still looking to add a gold example. Just haven't located the right one yet.
--dj--Joe
Nice set Don.
I wonder why no marks on the reverse of these badges? I don't recall seeing any marked examples and none of mine are. I'm still looking to add a gold example. Just haven't located the right one yet.
--dj--Joe
Thanks Joe.
I've no idea why these pieces were not marked, maybe it was due to the hollow type reverse? I've never understood the markings of vet badges anyway, as you know they usually just have a number like "1" or "5" etc. I've often though that these are planchet or die indicators rather than a manufacturer id but I'm not really sure.
Here are another pattern of shooter badge, I assume later as the quality isn't as high. These are a lot tougher to find than the previous design as well...
All are marked 1 with Ges. Gesch. The number is directly under the pin so may not be visible on the scans.
First the Bronze. I need to upgrade this piece if I can, it's not easy to see on the scan but the remains of the bronze finish can be seen on the butts in natural light.
Cheers
Don
Very nice Don. If anyone can find a bronze in better condition I would guess you could.
In all my years collecting I have only seen your three and one other that sold before I could even ask about it.
I'd be happy to take the old example off your hands when you do upgrade.
--dj--Joe
Don,
You truly are "a man for all seasons..."
Many thanks for sharing your first-class collection and knowledge with us over the years.
Joe,
A sincere thank you for re-building the many informative threads and valuable information that we've lost. Your tireless efforts are very much appreciated!
Best regards!
Bill
Thank you Gentleman, it is much appreciated, & Joe, it's yours if I can find another....
I'd also like to join Bill in thanking Joe, not only for rebuilding the threads but for digging out old ones to see if anything new can be added.
Here's another Kyff piece, the last of the shooters I have. This one in bronze, I missed a silver a few weeks ago....
Bill and Don, thank you for the kind words.
My small efforts would amount to naught without generous knowledgable individuals such as the two of you and so many others who share rare and wonderfull items from their fascinating collections.
I have had much enjoyment over the years here seeing so many and varied collectibles that I would otherwise not have found the opportunity to see. I thank you all.
My regards, --dj--Joe
I have been very slow to add any items to my collection. Here are two recent additions.
The NSDMB (Nat. Soc. Deutscher Marine Bund), cap eagle I have had for years.
The NSDMB breast eagle and the NSRKB Honor shield are the recent additions.
--dj--Joe
Very nice Joe.
I thought That you may enjoy seeing a picture of a Marine Bund breast eagle in wear....
Also of interest is the small lapel which is for the Reichsbund Deutscher Seegeltung.
Cheers
Don
WOW....great pic and great research Don.......it looked like a blurr to me but you nailed it!! Thanks for all your continuing efforts in this hobby.
Very nice Don. I appreciate seeing the in wear picture.
Does anyone have any period information on the Deutscher Marine Bund or the Reichskriegerbund?
--dj--Joe
I can add this NSDMB stickpin.
--dj--Joe
Very nice Joe.
Not sure whether this is relevant here or not but I recently picked up a period booklet showing some of the NSRKB insignia.
1st page
2nd page
3rd page
4th page
5th & last page
Thank you Don. An interesting item for you to share with the community.
I'd sure like to stumble across some of the higher rank armbands.
--dj--Joe
I've been working on this corner of the collection.
Slowly.
--dj--Joe
Been meaning to add this.
--dj--Joe
Wanted to add a few thing for the thread!
Will add more later!
PVON
Looking forward to more.
--dj--Joe
Back to the top in hope of seeing more.
--dj--Joe
Bump. Always hoping to see something new.
Hmmm, silence. Any one have anything to share? Armbands. Gorgets. Something odd?
--dj--Joe
Once more to the top. Hoping for something new.
--dj--Joe
6th try is the charm, right? Bumped hoping for more to see.
--dj--Joe
How about these Joe, stickpins for the supporting members (Förderer - Abzeichen). One for the DRKB-Kyffhäuser & the other for the NSRKB...
Don
Hi Don.
Must not be common. Yours are the only examples I have seen.
many thanks for sharing.
--dj--Joe
Thanks Joe, they can be tough to find. The NSRKB version is shown in the little booklet that I posted back on page 11, see
here . It can be found in either translucent or opaque red/orange enamel, these are the pin back versions....
Don
Don, I note the DRKB-Kyffhäuser Forderer badge has a solid base behind the swas. as opposed to an all white field such as seen on membership badges. Do you know if all of the DRKB-Kyffhäuser Forderer badges are like that or possibly a manufacturers variant?
I will look in my resource books.
I like the opaque red/orange enamel examples best. Nice to see the variations side by side.
Thanks for showing them.
--dj--Joe
Don, I note the DRKB-Kyffhäuser Forderer badge has a solid base behind the swas. as opposed to an all white field such as seen on membership badges. Do you know if all of the DRKB-Kyffhäuser Forderer badges are like that or possibly a manufacturers variant?
I will look in my resource books.
I like the opaque red/orange enamel examples best. Nice to see the variations side by side.
Thanks for showing them.
--dj--Joe
I can't honestly say for sure Joe, as I have only seen a couple of examples, & from memory I'm sure that they were the same. The one shown in Hüsken's catalogue is the same.
Reading back through this thread again I see that there were a couple of NS Deutscher Marine Bund (NSDMB) items posted so I thought that I would add these. Don't know anything about them & have never seen any period reference to them supposidly long service badges, the 25 is very common & the 40 can sometimes be found, but I have only ever seen two examples of the 50.....
I'll only post one reverse as they are all identical.
Don
NSDMB!! , Wow Don 4 more rare pieces!!
They were issued pieces correct [?]... I have some trade guild booklets. They have a lot of adverts from manufactures thruout always showing their pin, ring etc. I'm going to take a look. . Never seen these before..Very interesting.., thanks,,G.
NSDMB!! , Wow Don 4 more rare pieces!!
They were issued pieces correct [?]... I have some trade guild booklets. They have a lot of adverts from manufactures thruout always showing their pin, ring etc. I'm going to take a look. . Never seen these before..Very interesting.., thanks,,G.
Thank you Gaspare, it would be interesting to see whether you find anything. As with so many of these small organisational membership/enamel badges, there is so little period info readily available. There's probably some in the archives if someone had the time to search but.....
I'll post a couple more Kriegerbund pieces that I have for which I have never seen any period info in a couple of days.
Don
Thanks, Don for posting the NS Deutscher Marine Bund badges. The only local example I have seen was missing the small Iron Cross.
--dj--Joe
Happy New Year folks!!
Here are a couple more Kriegerbund pieces that I know virtually nothing about.
As some of you may be aware, for some reason Thüringen was a hotbed for unusual & these days unknown enamel badges. As seen in some of my other posts here, there seems to be a multitide of so far undocumented enamel from the Third Reich period.
Here are two large badges (6.5 cm, about 2 inches in length) badges for the Deutscher Reichskriegerbund. I assume by the number 25, that they are anniversary pieces.... However, so far I have never found any documentation for them.
Two forms one with the full name plus Thüringen under the shield, the other simply with the number. The reverse set up is similar however they are made by different manufacturers, the first by Scheideanstalt, Oberstein the second by R.Conrad, Weimar.
Enjoy....
Reverses...
Don,
Have seen a few of these over the years. Sticker shock always held me back from purchasing.
Thanks for showing.
Nice sturdy attachment pin and catch for a heavy badge.
I have not found any info. on them either.
Perhaps someday you will find that illusive in wear image.
--dj--Joe
Thanks Joe, I hope to as well....
I can add a 1936 day badge.
--dj--Joe
Very nice Joe. I don't recall seeing that design before (but I could just be getting old & forgetful....
Don, I recall you had a badge "Kameradschaft der Kriegsfreiwilligen von 1914/18" in the NS Reichskriegerbund.
Was it given in one class only?
--dj--Joe
Thanks Don. An interesting pin and document.
I saw an online pin example and was overcome by sticker shock.
--dj--Joe
Thanks Joe. Looking at the document again, I hadn’t noticed that it was for a specific place, Mannheim/Ludwigshafen am Rhein. So it seems that this pin was another of the Kriegerbund pieces for a specific area as were the Thüringen pieces.
I was just off bumbling around the internet looking up Mannheim/Ludwigshafen am Rhein.
Area-specific badges = limited numbers = rarer finds.
Indeed.... Expalins why we don't see more of them, especially the documents....
That and the fact that the area was heavily bombed.
--dj--Joe
Dug out this image this morning. Another nice shot of the NS Deutscher Marine Bund (NSDMB) breast badge in wear. It's just a shame that the cap badge was left out....
Don
Nice image.
Thank you, Don.
--dj--Joe
Have had this for a long time.
Wettkampfsieger 1939. (competition winner 1939). Armshield.
Note the details. I have observed the years 1937 - 1941.
--dj--Joe
Very nice Joe, I do like these but have only ever had one which came in with another group. I'll see if I have any scans. According to the document that I posted here on page 11
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=271788#Post271788 they came in bronze, silver & gold, but I have never seen anything other than bronze, have you?
Bronze examples are all I have seen Don. Other than a few with the finish gone.
I have not found any information about qualification.
I dimly recall seeing an in-wear image. Somewhere. (I think).
--dj--Joe
I have a feeling that's the image I recalled.
Thanks Don, for posting it. I was industriously going through books and saved images searching.
--dj--Joe
Thinking about it, I'm not sure that I've seen another in wear picture....
The images below showing the dateline for when the insignia & anniversary badges were changed/introduced were posted on another forum by Peter Wetrat who is writing a two volume book on the Kriegerbund. I thought that they would be of interest here as a reference. From what I have seen so far Peter's book, although written in German, will be certainly worth picking up.
Anniversary badge timeline....
I am four short of a complete enamel set. A couple are those elusive 50's.
Something to shoot for.
--dj--Joe
Regarding the 1924 type. I have seen oval examples. Like member Duzig posted on page 2. Would they be post war pieces or variant designs?
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=359107&page=2Somewhat like the post war KLKALIBER example member Raymond posted on page 5.
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=359107&page=5--dj--Joe
I've no idea Joe. Possibly a Frauen badge? I know that there was a female section. If I manage to get hold of a copy of the book when it is published, the answer may be in there.
Hey Joe. Can you show me the two pics you mentioned in your last Trend.
The links doesnt work with me.
Thanks and i will give some answers to your questions.
Peter Wedtrat
Peter, welcome and thank you for the offer of help.
Following are the pins in question. Pretty sure the silver KLKALIBER is post WWII.
--dj--Joe
Welcome to the forum Peter! Have your books been published yet?
Don
Hi Don. Not yet. There are always new informations coming in, which I would like to incorporate. When the book is ready, I will inform you.
@ derjager: So, here are some infos about the oval.
The high oval badge you depicted is the cap badge of the Kyffhäuser Youth.
Book: Equipment and Clothing of the Kyffhäuser Youth (1931)
Text excerpt: Cap Badge. Oval Kyffhäuser Youth cap badge, worn on the upper edge of the cap, i.e. above the national cockade by all leaders, guides and young comrades.
Kyffhäuser Youth | In addition to other tasks, the warrior associations saw it as necessary to instruct and lead the youth in the spirit of comradeship and cohesion. To this end, many associations formed their own youth groups, which were combined to form the Kyffhäuser Youth League. In 1933, the Reichskriegerbund had to dissolve its youth league or forcibly integrate it into the HJ due to the actions of the Reich youth leader Baldur von Schirach. All young comrades under 18 years of age, as far as they remained members, were transferred to the HJ or the BDM. Older young comrades, who made up by far the greater part of the Kyffhäuser youth, were to be transferred to the SA at the request of the Reich warrior leadership. In order to avoid this membership, the Reichskriegerbund occasionally accepted young comrades as extraordinary members into the federal associations. (for further details, see also chapter 10)
Need some help. I have some pics i like to add, but i dont know how
Great information as usual Peter.
If you wish, you can email your pictures to me & I will post them for you.
Don
Photo posting procedure.
Under the reply or post window, you will see "File Manager". Click it to open a window that lets you browse your computer for photos. When you find one, double click it to get the name in the box, and click "Add File". Repeat as needed, then click "Done Adding Files". When you click the "Submit" button, the files will be loaded to the forum. Users can load up to 5 photos at a time, Premium Members and moderators can add up to 10 photos at a time. This is not available in the "Quick Reply" window at the bottom of a thread.
Peter, thank you for the information. I had read of the Kyffhäuser Youth a long time back. But not with your in-depth knowledge of the subject.
Regards, --dj--Joe
Here are some more pics about the Kyffhäuser-Youth.
The book i mentioned in my post
Here are the shooting badges Kyffhäuserbund after 1952. The small one is the needle, the big one just the big one.
Oval for 15 shoots and the squares for 30 shoots.
and all with different named weapons
Some great information as always Peter, thank you for sharing it with us.
Don
Peter, thank you. Always glad to learn new things. Lots to see in your pictures.
It's difficult to be positive with black and white images but the base cloth of the armbands in the group picture appear to be the same color as the uniform. As opposed to the dark blue usually seen. (Image)
I see two rifles. They must be attending a shoot. Or practicing manual of arms.
--dj--Joe
Hello Joe. You are right. The armbands of the Reichskriegerbund with the federal badge is made of blue felt.
On August 19, 1934, the Reichskriegerführer decreed that the clubs of former hunters and marksmen wear their green hunter's armband with the Hubertus Cross with the Kyffhäuser uniform. At an event of the Reichskriegerbund the Kyffhäuser armband is to be worn above the hunter's armband, at an event of the Deutscher Jägerbund the hunter's armband is to be worn above the Kyffhäuser armband.
On May 2, 1936, the Reichskriegerführer ordered that the colonial warriors affiliated with the Reichskriegerbund wear the armband made of khaki cord-colored material instead of the blue armband.
The Reichskriegerbund introduced a field gray-green service coat to the uniform on May 10, 1936. As of January 31, 1937, the blue armband had to be exchanged for an armband made of felt or garbadine fabric in the color of the service coat.
In September 1940, the Beschaffungsstelle of the Reichskriegerbund informed its members that, as a result of increased armament requirements, felt cloth for the Bundesarmbinde was no longer available and blue armbands for members would no longer be supplied. Only members with service position stripes continue to receive armbands.
Peter, thank you for the information. Interesting. So many things to learn. I do not recall ever having seen a field gray-green armband in a collection.
Vern, I appreciate the gallery, and refer to it often. Hope others do as well.
--dj--Joe
The following shooting awards (badges of honor) could be shot:
- The Bronze Badge of Honor with at least 120 rings, no shot below 2
- The Silver Badge of Honor with at least 135 rings, no shot under 3
- The Golden Badge of Honor with at least 150 rings, no shot under 4
- The Great Kyffhäuser Badge of Honor with at least 160 rings, no shot under 6
A winner's plaque with a certificate was awarded to the shooters who had fulfilled the conditions for the Golden Badge of Honor three years in a row after earning the Grand Badge of Honor.
A very interesting award Peter, thank you for showing it.
Are the Bronze, Silver, Gold & Great Kyffhäuser Badge of Honor shooting badges you mention the ones shown in these two posts?
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=247701#Post247701 &
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=247702#Post247702
Yes, its correct.
Typ 1 with colours black-white-red
Typ 2 with the swastikas left and right of the monument
Typ 3 with swastika under the monument
Peter, thank you. The Sieger-Plakette is a first for me. Nice looking award, bronze and marble. A substantial award.
Could I ask how long were the typ 2 badges of honor in existence? They seem to be a difficult collectible to find.
--dj--Joe
Thank you for the confirmation Peter. May I ask what did the Great Kyffhäuser Badge of Honor for the type 2 badges looked like?
Here are the links for the bronze, silver & gold
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=247820#Post247820 &
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=247821#Post247821
And these would be two of the 1st. typ. A bronze and gold.
--dj--Joe
Hallo Don. There is no Great Badge of Honor for Type 2. Only Bronze, Silber and Gold.
On February 21, 1937, the Reichskriegerbund informed its members about the introduction of a newly designed shooting honor pin (type 2).
The old marksmen's badge of honor was very similar to the anniversary badge for 25 and 50 years of membership. Since the sporting achievement badges, and the shooting Badge of Honor was one of them, could continue to be worn even if the person in favor ended his membership in the Reichskriegerbund, a badge had to be created that was completely different from the Federal Badge and the Jubilee Badge.
Another reason was that the desire was often expressed that the new badge should give a closer connection to the shooting sports. Therefore the new badges showed rifles and a target. Because of the general raw material situation, it was decided not to use enamel.
In June 1937, the federal management in Berlin announced that, due to a lack of material, delivery could not be expected before August 1937.
The design and appearance did not please the members at all. Therefore, at the beginning of October 1937, the federal leadership brought out a new revised shooting honor pin, the type 3 with swastika between the rifles.
Timeline
February 1937 introductions shooting honor pin type 2.
August 1937 Beginning of the issue of the badge of honor
October 1937 After only 7 months introduction of the new shooting pin of honor type 3
Peter,
Thank you. 7 months for the type 2. No wonder they are not common. A wonder they did not get gathered up and melted down.
--dj--Joe
Some absolutely fabulous information Peter! Thank you so much for sharing it with us. I have often wondered what the timeline was for these badges/pins.
Joe, I doubt that it was even 7 months. If they weren't ready to be issued until August & a new design announced in October.....
Peter, one more question if I may. Do you know what this pin would be for? It is the only example I have ever seen. The one shown in the Hüsken catalogues is the exact same example.
Thanks again for all of you help.
I think that I may have frightened Peter off with all my questions
......
Here is a recent addition that I have spent many years trying to find, the NSRKB (1938?) version of the Hochland cap badge. The earlier Kyffhäuser version is often found but the other is a pig to find...
Reverse is unmarked with just the two attaching prongs so I will only post it if required.
Don
Hi Don,
I have also been on the scout for an example of the NSRKB Hochland cap badge for my collection. I have seen a small few in rough condition.
--dj--Joe
Hello Don. I was on a research trip and could not take care of the forum.
I am really happy if I can answer your questions or help. So my request: ask, ask, ask. Anytime and always.
The cap badge shown in this thread is an additional cap badge. On march 18, 1936, the leader of Reichskriegerbund Reinhard regulated, that only members in "Gau Hochland" (county of bavaria) can wear an additional badge, the Edelweiss, in tradition to the Alpenkorps in WW1.
Ah Peter thank goodness, I thought that I had asked too many questions....
May I ask if you know what this pieces is that I posted here?
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=359308#Post359308
I will pin this topic.
--dj--Joe
Don, I have noted badges marked, Meister Klasse 1 or 2 or 3. Have you ever seen any referring to 1 as A, 2 as B, etc. (?)
--dj--Joe
Or - after more thought I wonder if the A could be for adlerschiessen? Would shooting at a wooden eagle (adler) target be considered a class of shoot?
--dj--Joe
Or - after more thought I wonder if the A could be for adlerschiessen? Would shooting at a wooden eagle (adler) target be considered a class of shoot?
--dj--Joe
Possible I guess, I've never seen a reference to the Kriegerbund having such shoots as these are usually for hunters etc. but......
Don, I have noted badges marked, Meister Klasse 1 or 2 or 3. Have you ever seen any referring to 1 as A, 2 as B, etc. (?)
--dj--Joe
No I haven't, but I have seen on the Tyrol badges, Meister Klasse Armeegewehr.....
Armeegewehr sounds more applicable.
--dj--Joe
However, what worries me is, if it is for Armeegewehr, then there is likely to be one for KK, but to date this is the only example that I have ever seen. Just the one piece!!
Don
Not that it's an absolute but I notice most of the badges that have leaf borders appear to be oak leaves.
One of your Thuringen examples appears to have the laurel leaves like the Meister Kl. A. badge. As does the document for your Kriegs-Freiwlliger badge.
So - that leads nowhere.
--dj--Joe
Just bringing Don's question back to the top.
--dj--Joe