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Posted By: derjager LDO & Präsidialkanzlei numbers, & M codes. - 03/15/2007 10:51 PM
Leistungsgemeinschaft Deutscher Ordenshersteller. LDO.
L/10 Deschler & Sohn, München.
L/11 Wilhelm Deumer, Lüdenscheid.
L/12 C.E. Juncker, Berlin.
L/13 Paul Meybauer, Berlin.
L/14 Friedrich Orth, Wien.
L/15 Otto Schickle, Pforzheim.
L/16 Steinhauer & Lück, Lüdenscheid.
L/17 Hermann Wernstein, Jena Lobstedt.
L/18 B H Mayer's, Pforzheim.
L/19 Ferdinand Hoffstätter, Bonn.
L/21 Förster & Barth, Pforzheim.
L/22 Glaser & Sohn, Dresden.
L/23 Julius Maurer, Oberstein.
L/24 Fritz Zimmermann, Stuttgart.
L/25 A.E. Kächert, Wein.
L/26 Klein & Quenzer, Idar Oberstein.
L/50 Gebr. Godet, Berlin.
L/51 E. Ferd Wiedmann, Frankfurt am Main.
L/52 C.F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim.
L/53 Hymmen & Co., Lüdenscheid.
L/54 Schauerte & Höhfeld, Lüdenscheid.
L/55 Wächtler & Lange, Mittwaida.
L/56 Funcke & Brüninghaus.
L/57 Boerger & Co., Berlin.
L/58 Rudolf Souval, Wein.
L/59 Alouis Rettenmaier, Schwäbisch-Gmund.
L/60 Gustav Brehmer, Markneukirchen.
L/61 Friedrich Linden, Lüdenscheid.
L/62 Werner Redo, Saarlautern.
L/63 G.H. Osang, Dresden.
L/64 Assmann & Sohn, Lüdenscheid.
L/65 Franke & Co., Lüdenscheid.
L/66 A.D. Schwerdt, Stuttgart.

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Präsidialkanzlei.
1. Deschler & Sohn, München.
2. C.E. Juncker, Berlin.
3. Wilhelm Deumer, Lüdenscheid.
4. Steinhauer & Lück, Lüdenscheid.
5. Hermann Wernstein, Jena-Lobstedt.
6. Fritz Zimmermann, Stuttgart.
7. Paul Meybauer, Berlin.
8. Ferdinand Hoffstätter, Bonn/Rhein.
9. Liefergemeinschaft Schmuckhandwerker, Pforzheim.
10. Foerster & Barth, Pforzheim.
11. Grossmann & Co., Wien.
12. frank & Reif, Stuttgart.
13. Gustav Brehmer, Markneukirchen.
14. Lauer, Nürnberg.
15. Friedrich Orth, Wein.
16. Alois Rettenmaier, Schwäbisch-Gmund.
17. Unknown.
18. Karl Wurster, Markneukirchen.
19. E. Ferd. Wiedmann, Frankfurt am Main.
20. C.F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim.
21. Gebr. Godet & Co., Berlin.
22. Boerger & Co., Berlin.
23. Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur und Ziselierung, Berlin.
24. A.G. der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller, Hanau am Main.
25. A.G. der Graveur-,Gold-und Silverschmeid-Innungen, Hanau.
26. B.H. Mayer's, Kunstprägeanstalt, Pforzheim.
27. Anton Schenkl's, Wien.
28. Eugen Schmidthäussler, Pforzheim.
29. Hauptmünzamt, Berlin.
30. Hauptmünzamt, Wien.
31. Hans Gnad, Wien.
32. W. Hobacher, Wien.
33. Friedrich Linden, Lüdenscheid.
34. Willy Annetsberger, München.
35. F.W. Assmann & Söhne, Lüdenscheid.
36. Bury & Leonhard, Hanau.
37. A. Baumeister, Lüdenscheid.
38. Unknown.
39. Rudolf Berge, Gablonz.
40. Berg & Nolte, Lüdenscheid.
41. Gebr. Bender, Oberstein.
42. Bindermann & Co., Oberkassel bei Bonn.
43. Julius Bauer Söhne, Zella Mehlis.
44. Jakob Bengel, Idar/Oberstein.
45. Franz Jungwirth, Wien.
46. Hans Doppler, Wela Oberdonau.
47. Erhard & Söhne A.G. Schwäbisch-Gmund.
48. Richard Feix, Gablonz.
49. Josef Feix Söhne, Gablonz.
50. Karl Gschiermeister, Wien.
51. Eduard Görlach & Söhne, Gablonz.
52. Gottlieb & Wagner, Idar Oberstein.
53. Glaser & Sohn, Dresden.
54. Unknown.
55. J.E. Hammer & Söhne, Geringswalde.
56. Robert Hauschild, Pforzheim.
57. Karl Hensler, Pforzheim.
58. Artur Jäkel & Co., Gablonz.
59. Louis Keller, Oberstein.
60. Katz & Deyhle, Pforzheim.
61. Rudolph A. Karneth & Sohn, Gablonz.
62. Kerbach & Österhelt, Dresden.
63. Franz J. Klast & Söhne, Gablonz.
64. Gottl. Fr. Kech & Sohn, Pforzheim.
65. Klein & Quenzer, Idar/Oberstein.
66. Friedrich Keller, Oberstein.
67. H. kreisel, Gablonz.
68. Alfred Knobloch, Gablonz.
69. Alois Klammer, Innsbruck.
70. Lind & meyrer, Oberstein.
71. Rudolf Leukert, Gablonz.
72. Franz Lipp, Pforzheim.
73. Franz Mänert, Gablonz.
74. Carl Maurer Sohn, Oberstein.
75. Unknown.
76. Ernst L. Müller, Pforzheim.
77. Bayerische Hauptmünzamt, München.
78. Gustav Miksch, Gablonz.
79. Unknown.
80. G.H. Osang, Dresden.
81. Overhoff & Cie, Lüdenscheid.
82. Augustin Prager, Gablonz.
83. Emil Peukert, Gablonz.
84. Carl Pollath, Schrobenhausen.
85. Julius Pietsch, Gablonz.
86. Roman Palme, Gablonz.
88. Werner Redo, Saarlautern.
89. Rudolf Richter, Schlag bei Gablonz.
90. August F. Richter KG, Hamburg.
91. Josef Rössler & Co., Gablonz.
92. Josef Rückert & Sohn, Gablonz.
93. Richard Simm & Söhne, Gablonz.
94. Unknown.
95. Adolf Scholze, Grunwald.
96. Unknown.
97. Unknown.
98. Rudolf Souval, Wien.
99. Schwertner & Cie, Granz-Eggenberg.
100. Rudolf Wächtler & Lange, Mittwaida.
101. Rudolf Tam, Gablonz.
102. Philipp Türk, Wien.
103. August G. Tam, Gablonz.
104. Heinrich Ulbricht's Ww, Kaufing bei Schwanenstadt/Oberdonau.
105. Heinrich Vogt, Pforzheim.
106. Brüder Schneider AG, Wein.
107. Carl Wild, Hamburg.
108. Arno Wallpach, Salzburg.
109. Walter & Henlein, Gablonz.
110. Otto Zappe, Gablonz.
111. Ziemer & Söhne, Oberstein.
112. Argentor Werke Rust & Hetzel, Wien.
113. Herman Aurich, Dresden.
114. Ludwig Bertsch, Karlsruhe.
115. Unknown.
116. Funcke & Brüninghaus, Lüdenscheid.
117. Hugo Lang, Wiesenthal.
118. August Menze & Sohn, Wien.
119. Unknown.
120. Franz Petzl, Wien.
121. Unknown.
122. J.J. Stahl, Strassburg.
123. Beck, Hassinger & Co., Strassburg.
124. Rudolf Schanes, Wien.
125. Eugen Gauss, Pforzheim.
126. Eduard Hann, Oberstein.
127. Moritz Hausch AG Pforzheim.
128. S. Jablonski GmbH, Posen.
129. Fritz Kohm, Pforzheim.
130. Wilhelm Schröder & Co., Lüdenscheid.
131. Heinrich Wander, Gablonz.
132. Franz Reischauer, Idar/Oberstein.
133. Unknown.
134. Otto Klein & Co., Hanau.
135. Julius Mosersen, Oberstein.
136. J. Wagner & Sohn, Berlin.
137. J.H. Werner, Berlin.
138. Julius Maurer, Oberstein.
139. Hymmen & Co., Lüdenscheid.
140. Schauerte & Hohfeld, Lüdenscheid.
141. Sohni, Heubach & Co., Oberstein.
142. A.D. Schwerdt, Stuttgart.

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M Codes.
M1 = Insignia.
M2 = Sub Contractors.
M3 = Symbols/emblems.
M4 = Belt Buckles.
M5 = Uniform Accessories.
M6 = Aluminum Products.
M7 = Daggers.
M8 = Metal Accessories.
M9 = Tinnies.
M10 = Musical Instruments.
M11 = NSDAP Medals.
M12 = Miniature NSDAP Medals.
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Posted By: Vern Re: LDO & Präsidialkanzlei numbers, & M codes. - 08/16/2010 04:06 AM
The list of Lieferant numbers, LDO codes, company name lists for M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M7, M9, M11, and M12 are now in the GDC Reference Library. I also included the initials commonly used on badges by companies in the Lieferant list. I'll add more as I find them. If you have initials, let me know and I can add them to the list wink Anything else you could use, let me know and if I can find or get it, I'll add it to the Library.
Vern,,,what is the maker code for "G 10" on the reverse of Hindenburg Crosses?...is this an LDO or Presidialkanzlei number or something different all together?...Thanks for your time,,Robert

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Posted By: Vern Re: LDO & Präsidialkanzlei numbers, & M codes. - 08/30/2010 09:14 PM
I believe it's something different. The RZM "G" series was for Wholesalers, but if that was a "G" code, it should be in normal format, Gx/10, where x is 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 11, or 14. LDO numbers would be L/10 and Presidialkanzlei would be just the "10".
Thanks Vern for your reply:I have also noticed other HC crosses with abbreviated makers names and even some different codes other than the "G",,,if i understand your reply,the Hindenburg Cross with a "G" or any other letter alpha code was a RZM quality controlled item without the RZM marking?,,Robert
Posted By: Vern Re: LDO & Präsidialkanzlei numbers, & M codes. - 08/31/2010 12:00 AM
I don't believe it was an RZM code. Not sure what it is, but not an RZM wink
thanks for trying,,,the mystery continues,,, confused
The COH / Hindenburg crosses, various examples have reportedly been seen with G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, G7, G8, G9, G10, G11, G12, G13, G14, G15, G16, G17, G18, G19, G20 and G21 marks. So far unknown as to maker There were certainly many other maker marks.
It could represent a Gablonz conglomerate of makers.

--dj--Joe
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