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Posted By: derjager D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/23/2008 05:24 PM
Please post your membership badges and examples of the Honor pin with year.
--dj--Joe
My 1934 honor pin example, obverse.

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/23/2008 05:25 PM
Reverse, unmarked.
--dj--Joe

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/23/2008 05:28 PM
Should anyone care to submit a little of the history of the organization, please do. Smile It would be appreciated.

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 11:20 AM
Can't help you with a history I'm afraid, but here are my pins.

First 1934 Lauer marked.

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Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 11:22 AM
Next 1934 Hoffstätter marked.

Apologies as the mark is directly behind the pin & I still haven't had the time to dig the camera out to take an angle shot Frown

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Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 11:24 AM
Here are two unmarked 1938 pins. As with the 1934's there are noticable differences, especially with the leaves of the wreath.

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Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 11:25 AM
The difference is more noticable from the reverse.

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Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 11:28 AM
In fact I categorise these into three types: semi cut leaves, fully cut leaves & uncut leaves.

Example........

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 03:08 PM
Don, I have not seen them side by side like that before. Interesting observation and nice pieces. Smile
Have you seen heard of or know if there are other years? 35, 36, or 37?

--dj--Joe
Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 04:01 PM
It appears that the leaves on all three 34's are different, your two and my one. I keep jumping back and forth between my example and your Hoffstätter trying to discern if they are different or the same.
What do you think Don?

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 05:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by derjager:
Have you seen heard of or know if there are other years? 35, 36, or 37?


No. Hüsken lists a '37 but doesn't illustrate it. I have however seen images of a '39 which Hüsken doesn't mention at all!

Cheers
Don
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 05:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by derjager:
It appears that the leaves on all three 34's are different, your two and my one. I keep jumping back and forth between my example and your Hoffstätter trying to discern if they are different or the same.
What do you think Don?

--dj--Joe


They are different Joe. I've put the two toghether below, look at the top leaf on either side, a definite cut out compared to the Hoffstätter. Another maker I'd say.

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 03/24/2008 11:15 PM
Thanks Don. I forgot how you showed me to do the side by side thing. I never really had the hang of it. Old dog does not learn well.

--dj--Joe
Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 04/13/2008 06:32 PM
Anyone have examples of the membership pin?

--dj--Joe
Posted By: fritziii Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 04/18/2008 02:18 AM
Very good thread Joe. Question, is the DDAC part of the NSKK or maybe a smaller entity of them or is this group soley on there own and not connected to the NSKK.

Fritziii
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 04/19/2008 08:51 AM
The DDAC was a seperate entity soley for owners of private cars, similar to the British AA & RAC & the US AAA. It's president however was an NSKK Standartenführer, Freiherr Günther von Egloffstein.

Although they were seperate organisations the NSKK & DDAC often held joint rallies & events. Therefore badges & trophies can be found carrying both emblems

Cheers
Don
Posted By: WWII Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 04/20/2008 10:58 AM
Gents,

Another great infomative thread - many thanks!

Bill
Posted By: castle Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/01/2008 01:19 AM
mine

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Posted By: castle Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/01/2008 01:20 AM
back

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Posted By: castle Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/01/2008 01:44 AM
some cool stuff from this club can be found..tom

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/01/2008 10:06 PM
Smile Some very nice items. I did not realize the basic members badge was larger than the honor badge.

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/30/2008 03:42 PM
Came a cross a Deschler marked piece recently. I've lightened the reverse so the mark is a little more visible.

A point of interest. I'm not sure how many of you have noticed that where maker marks are usually raised. Apart from regulation RZM pieces like party badges, Deschler virtually always impressed or stamped their mark....

Cheers
Don

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/30/2008 09:16 PM
Interesting observation Don.
I've sort of got one eye half open for a members badge. Wink Looking for just the right one, a cheap one. Smile

--dj--Joe
Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/31/2008 12:25 AM
The Deschler would fall under the semi cut leaves category right?

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/31/2008 03:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by derjager:
The Deschler would fall under the semi cut leaves category right?


Yes, I'd say so.


quote:
Originally posted by derjager: I've sort of got one eye half open for a members badge. Looking for just the right one, a cheap one.


Be careful, just got this from a copy shop for a couple of £'s. In this condition it wouldn't fool anyone but once aged....

I deliberately picked one up with a misplaced pin as it gave a clearer view of the maker...

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Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/31/2008 03:39 PM
Maker mark. Sorry about the glare, that's the problem with shiny new ones. Perhaps I should age it.... Mad

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 05/31/2008 05:54 PM
Thanks for that Don. I am thinking horrible thoughts about the fake mongers. Mad

Got my eye on a different maker but $85.00 is a bit much to my thoughts. May wait for my Sept. show.

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 01/21/2010 07:18 PM
Bringing this one up again for anyone interested. Came across another maker for the 1934, G. Danner, Mühlhausen, Thür

Due to the limitations of the dept of field from my scanner, the makermark is far chrisper than shown in the scan.

Cheers
Don

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 01/22/2010 10:45 PM
That's a fine example Don. I don't recall having seen that maker more than once before on some other item. Congrats on a good find.
Nicely cut out leaves on it.

Regards, Joe
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 02/05/2010 05:11 PM
Thanks Joe.

Here's another, AD. Schwerdt, Stuttgart.

Cheers
Don

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 02/05/2010 11:21 PM
The Schwerdt has a crisp look to it.

--dj--Joe
Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 10/29/2012 02:12 AM
Thought to bring this around once again. Perhaps someone will have something new or different to add.

--dj--Joe
Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 07/15/2021 11:00 PM
Anyone have different years or maker marked examples to share?

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Duzig Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 07/18/2021 03:32 AM
Hello,
I know this is really a thread about DDAC badges but I hope no one minds me putting in a picture of a DDAC flag that I picked up a while ago. I had never seen one for sale before so I decided to pick it up when I saw it. The one picture just kind of give you the idea of the size of this flag. Roughly 17ft by 7 ft at it's widest point on the hoist end. I would imagine this would have been flown at racing events and the like. I also have a few plaques which I would be glad to show if anyone cares to see them. Regarding the flag if it doesn't fit in with the thread please remove
thanks
Duzig(Bill)

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Posted By: Duzig Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 07/18/2021 03:46 AM
Here are 3 plaques I have. I'm sorry I didn't take German in high school so these are rough translations...very rough translations probably. The first one is probably for some sort of qualifying race, the second one I believe is a membership plaque and the third is I believe awarded for recognition for a sporting event during the olympics. Please feel free to correct my translations regarding what these items where for if need be. thanks for looking
Duzig(Bill)

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Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 07/29/2021 10:47 AM
The flag sure makes a cool bedspread wink

Love the non portables, I never got around to picking any up.

Thanks for posting
Don
Posted By: Gaspare Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 07/29/2021 01:34 PM
Bill, that flag is fantastic!! Is the center plaque something that affixes to a vehicle? or?
Posted By: Duzig Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 07/31/2021 04:36 PM
Hello Don & Gaspare,
sorry for the delayed response. Don, it does make a cool bedspread for sure and I also love not only the DDAC non portables but all types. They are so varied and artistic that there's always another one to acquire. And Gaspare, yes my understanding is that the center oval enamel plaque would be attached to the member's automobile. Again, I thank you both for your replies. Comments coming from accomplished and knowledgeable collectors such as yourselves is appreciated.
Again, thanks for your comments
Bill
Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 08/01/2021 09:03 PM
Bill, thank you. Very nice items. I wonder if the 1934 plaque would be a door plaque or also a grill emblem?

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Duzig Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 08/02/2021 10:35 PM
Hello Joe,
again sorry for the belated response. I would think it might be a grill emblem perhaps being that I don't think it would be a membership plaque for attachment to a door but who knows. I guess it could have been just an award plaque that had holes drilled into it to be attached to a wooden plaque or something, but again this is all a guess. Thanks for your comments, always appreciated
Bill
Posted By: Soul72 Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 01/29/2022 01:42 AM
Can anyone tell me how a 1938 cost more then say 1934 well the 1938 cost lot more thanks
Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 08/04/2023 10:20 PM
Does anyone have thoughts on the above question?

Would anyone have something to share? smile

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 08/05/2023 10:00 AM
I'm not sure that I understand the question? confused
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 08/05/2023 12:38 PM
Just remembered that I also have a couple of pieces that I've not shown before.

Firstly a stickpin which I was told is for Ortsgruppe München... Reverse unmarked.

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Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 08/05/2023 12:39 PM
And a 25 year badge maked to Klotz u. Kienast. München on the reverse.

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Posted By: derjager Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 08/05/2023 06:42 PM
Two more good-looking badges Don.
The Ortsgruppe München stands out with an unusual but interesting shape.
I was not aware of 25-year badges for the DDAC. I wonder, were there other year designations?

This was a nice surprise. I did not expect to see anything new and so interesting added to this thread. thank You, Don.

--dj--Joe
Posted By: Don Scowen Re: D.D.A.C. - German Automobile club. - 08/07/2023 04:41 AM
Thank you Joe. I've never seen any with a different year on them, but it doesn't mean that they aren't out there. I have seen another of the strange shaped one, this time with the letters A.C.M. instead of O.C.M. I was told that it was for Automobil Club München..... But whether that is really what the letters were for I cannot say.
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