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Hi All:

As part of my SS number research, I finally came across a log for most of the first 1500 recipients of the "Blood Order" (Ehrenzeichen vom 8./9. November 1923). I know a few of you have this and they were published an out-of-print book that is very pricey. This list has some gaps which I can fill with some subsequent documents. For the benefit of those who don't have this information, I will post these for you over the next few weeks. Here are the first 252.

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Here is the summary of the content.

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 1-18

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 19-36

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 37-54

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 55-72

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 73-90

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 91-108

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 127-144

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 145-162

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 163-180

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 181-198

Ross Kelbaugh
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Numbers 199-216

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Numbers 217-234

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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And here are numbers 235-252. More to follow next week.

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Posted By: Dean Perdue Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/09/2008 06:24 PM
Great valuable info to post on Nov.9th Ross.
Thanks for sharing it.
Oops...forgot numbers 109-126. That's a lot of uploads to keep straight.

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/09/2008 07:11 PM
Ross, once again all I can say is thank you!
Posted By: Doug Kenwright Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/10/2008 12:57 AM
I am especially interested in holders 11, 41, 127,238 and 251..

All these holders are marked 'Entzogen' or withdrawn..what are the stories behind these men losing such a coveted award as the Blood Order?

Also of note are the holders who are victims of the Rohm purge (+ 30.6.34) and in the case of number 11, another has taken his number..

I also just noticed that we are all posting on Nov.9th, a most sacred day on the National Sozialist's calender..
Excellent observations Doug. I also have to confess that I didn't realize today's date when I made the post. It just so happened that I had some time today to prepare these for posting.

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/12/2008 11:30 PM
Does anyone have any ideas on why there are two award dates for most of the recipients ie. 1934 and 1940?
Posted By: Doug Kenwright Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/13/2008 10:14 PM
That's a good question Erich..were they being re-affirmed?

Some thoughts..considering there are entries on holder's deaths (in combat, purge and through natural occurrences and accidents etc..) perhaps they were updating the list and the notations were made to show that the recipients were still in possession of the award, or were still eligible.

It also looks like this list was updated in the tumultuous 6 months following the July 20th bomb plot, in which everyone, even a Blood Order holder, could be suspect in regards to their loyalty.Remember in this period, there was the second big purge of party members and others who were deemed disloyal to the regime.

If we could find another updated list (if one exists..) we would probably see more holders deceased as the war came to a violent conclusion in the last one year +

It is possible that the dates we see under some are when they were updated (in a previous list..) with the latter update being 19.1.44

It would also be interesting to see if all the holder listed as being 'purged' during operation Hummingbird, are listed in the official tally of men killed.
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/13/2008 11:19 PM
My guess would be re-affirmed too. To go along with this theory the paperwork on my BO holder # 626 Franz Fuchs shows a 1937 form where he states that he is eligible for the BO. The forms must have been sent to all the 1st pattern BO holders.
Posted By: Doug Kenwright Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/14/2008 12:29 AM
Poor Wilhelm Schmid(t) BO holder no. #17 had only held the order 4 days before he was shot.It was probably one of the last 'official' items taken care of by the SA on behalf of the NSDAP (in regards to paperwork etc..) before the SA took their annual summer break..

I can't wait to see the next group..!
Posted By: paulj Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/14/2008 12:52 AM
I looked up Emil Petzendorfer whose BO was revoked on 6.2.39.

He was arrested on 2.6.39 for serious bribery of an official, betrayal of secrets to Jews, and preferential treatment, etc.

Apparently, the charges for the arrest proved true and four months later he was stripped of his BO, and probably his rank etc.
Posted By: Doug Kenwright Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/14/2008 02:50 AM
If you had your BO revoked, would it still exist, or did they destroy it..

If they gave your number to another, would they also give him your order?
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/14/2008 11:18 PM
If the BO was revoked it had to be returned as per regulations to the office of the 9th of Nov. The frugal Germans would not destroy it but I'm sure re-issue it.
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/15/2008 04:49 PM
Another interesting thing is that Sister Pia is reported to have BO # 25 but it's left blank on the page.
Posted By: Doug Kenwright Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 11/22/2008 12:41 AM
Interesting Erich..could be that because it was such a spur of the moment thing by Hitler, in deciding to award this woman, that her award did not go through the 9th Nov. committee.
Posted By: Dean Perdue Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/03/2009 04:21 PM
With the recipient's numbers and some dates being on a list is there any way to tell at about what point or number the Blood Order goes from a 1st pattern to a 2nd pattern?

Also I thought I read the 1st patterns were for involvment in the Putsch and the 2nd pattern was issued for other political reasons.
Is there any truth to that theory?

Any opinions are appreciated.
Thanks again Ross for all these great listings.
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/03/2009 11:13 PM
Dean, the 2nd patterns started at about # 1600 to about 4100. The 1st 1500 were for participation in the Putsch. The 2nd pattern was issued to Germans and Austrians who were imprisoned, wounded or lost their lives in the service of the NSDAP. There were some 2nd pattern BO's awarded to Putsch vets as well due to them applying for the award after1938. I hope this answers some of your questions.
Posted By: Dean Perdue Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/06/2009 02:58 AM
Thanks Erich,

All the great recent postings regarding Blood Order's, the memorials for Nov-9-1923, and the # list Ross provided got me wondering about where did the 16 who died for the NSDAP fit in with this award?

I thought the 16 martyrs listed on the honor plaque would have been some of the first to have been awarded the Blood Order (posthumously).

Looking through Ross's listings I dont see any recipients that are listed as deceased in 1923.

Am I missing something here? Anyone know something about award dates or numbers on this?

Thanks
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/06/2009 01:29 PM
It seems as though the deceased were not awarded an actual BO but rather a minature version of the award. Not much else is known at this time.
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/06/2009 01:53 PM
If the deceased were awarded the actual BO it would have been the 2nd paterrn after 1938 when the regulations were expanded to include being badly wounded or death in service to the Party.
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/14/2009 07:57 PM
I have Blutorden # 251 and the small red oil cloth document to go with it. Its to 'Reiber'. As its a first pattern medal with a second pattern document this would maybe point to the fact number 251 was re issued to Reiber. On the document above posted it shows a name crossed out and Reiber written alongside.Importantly then I think we can safely confirm with this medal and document that Blutorden had to be returned and re-issued in such cases.In this case Reiber must have been due a first pattern award and duly recieved it,with a second pattern holders document.Don't think my document says its a second issue but will check that next week when I visit the bank.
I have yet to research Reiber so any info would be gratefully recieved.

Unless a mistake was made entering his name on the document above,simply crossed out and written in.This would mean his medal was not collected in following whatever led to him having it revoked.Interesting stuff.Once I get to his document it will shed some more light.
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/14/2009 11:24 PM
That's interesting Jon, if you have a copy of Niemann's book on decorations he shows a 2nd pattern in the 2900 range issued to a Putsch vet in about 1940 with a letter from the office of the 9th of Nov. to the recipient stating that they were replacing the red document with the brown one.
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/16/2009 09:09 PM
Erich,yes I remember that one,wonder who's collection that resides in? Reibers came direct from the family via a collector friend.Perhaps he also had a brown holders ID? Getting some pics Wednesday hopefully
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/21/2009 09:01 PM
Here we can see it is a second issue ID. Does anyone have any futher info on the holder or why he had his BO 'Taken away'. It seems that the NSDAP did not ever take back his ID or Blutorden?


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Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/21/2009 11:38 PM
Jon, I think this is one of the many mysteries we probably never know the answer to. It's very interesting that the 2nd pattern award document is matched to this 1st pattern BO. Ah, another mystery!
Posted By: Erich-SA Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/24/2009 04:29 PM
At the top it notes 'Zweitschrift' which means 2nd copy or duplicate--on other documents it signifies that the original was lost or destroyed, and I suspect that's what happened here.
Erich
Hi All:

Here is a Blood Order document I came across in the National Archives.

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Here is the reverse. I see that it is noted in this roster that Jegg died in 1935.

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com

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Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/29/2009 06:57 PM
Ross, thanks for that.Would be great if you posted any others you might come across on your travels.Thats the brown first pattern holders small document ,Replaced with the red document for the second pattern as I have shown above.
Nice.You rarely see these survived !
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 01/29/2009 11:19 PM
Very nice and talk about a real Alte Garde born in 1852!
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/13/2010 05:09 PM
I was looking at this thread again and I can answer Dean's question. Many of the Putsch vets did not apply for the BO until after the 1st striking ended in 1935. These recipients were issued a 2nd pattern in early 1939 and there is documentation to back this up. One example is in Niemann's book on Awards where he shows a letter from the Office of the 9th of Nov. changing a members award document from red to brown due to his participation in the Putsch. His BO was numbered in the 2900 range. I hope this makes sense. Erich
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/13/2010 05:39 PM
I just noticed that I have repeated what I already wrote earlier in the thead. This shows that Beer and thread reading can be a problem. Big Grin Sorry for the double post.
Posted By: Doug Kenwright Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/13/2010 06:04 PM
At his advanced age, what would Alois Jegg have done to earn the Blood Order?
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/13/2010 08:40 PM
You basically just had to attend the Putsch and be a member of the NSDAP or affiliated organizations to qualify for the 1st pattern BO.
To Qualify for the 2nd pattern, you had to have been jailed for at least one year, loss of job or have been severally wounded in defense of the Party.
Posted By: Larry C Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 04:01 AM
I have a question and since I am not familiar with Blood order medals this will sound stupid. What is the reason for some of the empty spaces on the list and who was #1 on the list that is empty also? All I can do is ask. Thanks Larry
Posted By: John Pepera Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 05:05 AM
The # 1 spot was obviously reserved for the main man. It has been said that A.H. had a B.O. with the numeral 1 but that's not absolutely confirmed. It has also been theorized that he had a blank or un-numbered B.O. but again, that's not confirmed. It is within reason to assume that he had more than one B.O. and conceivably this may be a reason for some of the un-numbered pieces might come into play.

As to the blank spaces on the official listing, it has again been theorized that these numbers were originally assigned to persons who later had their B.O. revoked. However and contary to this idea, at one time I owned B.O. #200, August Bruschwiler (shown in Angolia) and pulled his records from the Berlin Document Center and did further research on the person. He was an antique dealer and had charges brought against him for misdealings with a political leader's mother. Legal proceedings ensued to include a personal letter from the accused to A.H. asking him to please intercede on his behalf because they were fellow 'Alte Kampfers' The records reflected no response from A.H. and as the legal proceedings went forth with the charged offender ultimately loosing his party affiliation and was subsequently ordered by the court to return his Gold Party Badge and his Blood Order. Contrary to the above hypothesis his name and number 200 remained in place on the B.O. list and also reflect his demise in 1943.

Interesting stuff but Larry, I'm sorry that I am unable to provide a more concrete answer to your inquiries.

Regards,

John
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 01:38 PM
One theory was that Ernst Roehm was BO # 1 but he never received his BO due to The night of the long knives. Hitler then took BO # 1. Wolfe Hardin owns BO # 1 along with Hitler's Brown shirt and one of his GPB's. BO # 1 is engraved rather than stamped from what I understand. I think John is correct regarding that some had more than one copy of the BO and that the spare was not numbered. Fobke had a numbered cased example and an unnumbered one attached to his uniform for example when discovered. I think there is a lot of mystery with the BO and a lot of answers we may never know.
Posted By: Larry C Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 01:39 PM
Hey John thanks for your reply. You went well over and beyond as far as providing an answer for me in something I have no knowledge of. You explained alot for a better understanding. Thanks again! Best Larry
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 03:01 PM
Both the orders I have seen up to the number 10 have been hand engraved rather then what we expect as standard. Sort of like a personal touch for the top guys,OR maybe a case of the recipient having their 2nd spare medal engraved unnoficially ? Interesting theory.
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 03:07 PM
One interesting omission on the list is BO# 25 that was awarded to the only female holder of the 1st pattern BO, Sister Pia. Was she awarded her BO by Hitler by passing the 9th of November Commission? Interesting!
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 03:18 PM
That would be a fantastic order to own Erich,I wonder if it survived !?
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 03:42 PM
Who knows Jon, one more mystery of the Blood Order. Smile
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 03:56 PM
Erich I am trying to study them but I'll soon be living in a cardboard box :]


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Posted By: king dong Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 05:34 PM
Heres a nice complete grouping you do not see very often!

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2

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3

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4

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5

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8

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9

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10

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11

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12

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13

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14

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15

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16

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17

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18

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19

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20

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Posted By: Doug Kenwright Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 08:09 PM
Are there a finite number of Blood Orders (that are known) or are there examples that have never been seen to this day?
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/14/2010 11:17 PM
Fantastic cased 2nd pattern BO and documents, King Dong and thanks for sharing them.
Doug, I don't think anyone really knows how many BO's survived the war. A total of about 4100 were awarded and I'm sure that there are more than a few in old collections that have never see the light of day. Best, Erich
Thanks for sharing King Dong. What do you all think of No. 254 that Charlie Synder has for sale. Here is the link:

http://www.snyderstreasures.com/pages/hitler.htm

Scroll down to it a bit from the top. I saw it priced at about 10K at one show.

Regards,

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/15/2010 08:41 AM
Ross,Not a fan of that case from those pictures.The photos of the medal have been taken with flash,from what I can see it could/prob is be real,but given his reputation it would be a risk buying without having it in hand.Would certainly need better pictures to part with my money.Also to not is a fair bit of side damage to the medal.
Lovely set above by the way.
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/15/2010 11:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fish:
Ross,Not a fan of that case from those pictures.The photos of the medal have been taken with flash,from what I can see it could/prob is be real,but given his reputation it would be a risk buying without having it in hand.Would certainly need better pictures to part with my money.Also to not is a fair bit of side damage to the medal.
Lovely set above by the way.

I agree with Jon that's probably real but if it's not the flash someone used silver cleaner on it. You would need an in hand inspection to be sure.
#33's document and medal are still owned by bis son (who was a wartime officer in Regiment "Der Führer"). Only set I've seen complete in person for someone in the "early street fighting."
Posted By: Dave Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 03/01/2010 02:07 PM
Mark,

I'll bet you get a few requests for the guy's address from collectors and dealers. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Dave
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 03/01/2010 04:43 PM
I just took another look at the Snyder piece,he has uploaded some more pictures.Yes it is an original medal but I don't like the case.The medal is listed as 'near mint' but is certainly not by any stretch of imagination. In fact It looks like it might have been in the ground and cleaned at some point, lots of details worn away from the soft silver surface and pretty big dings on the edge certainly makes it drastically overpriced IMO.Double what I would value it at.
Posted By: joepo Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 03/02/2010 04:39 PM
Nice BO!
I will try to post a pix of my SA dagger engraved to BO#88,Hans Kruger.
It would be cool to find the actual BO #88
to pair with it!
Joe
Posted By: OldFighter Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/04/2010 03:36 AM
Gentlemen, this has been an exceptionally great and early historical thread, without all the middle school pandering as on some other threads, this thread was exceptional to say the least.
Like enjoying a fine glass of wine, which I did,, while reading on,,I have to say well done to all for their input on The Blood Order Medals. Not one shred of negativity was found to be said. The photos posted and everyone`s research input, made it all the more enjoyable. These Alter Kampfer men were the beginning of what was to follow, and until present day,(now) and the study of this time period. Well done!
Posted By: Gaspare Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/04/2010 05:01 PM
Jon, here's one for you!!
this is why the book is taking so long! Wink

Just found a couple months ago.. A Blood Order ring! Well, not really.,,,but,,here it is:

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Posted By: Gaspare Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/04/2010 05:02 PM
And, it opens up and has a small book with all those who got killed listed during the putsch.
Better photos and better details coming soon!

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Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/04/2010 05:44 PM
That's a very cool ring G! Do you have any additional info on it? Best, Erich
Posted By: Jon Fish Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/04/2010 06:07 PM
Gaspare,nice find my friend. Whats on the front,its hard to make out. Private purchase ring then,looks like a lot of work involved making the small metal insert book I suspect more than one made following all that work?
Posted By: Gaspare Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/05/2010 03:35 AM
Knew you guys would like that!

Well, It's supposed to be a gem of some sort on front.

I have some conflicting info so far,,one bit is that it was for the participants/survivors of the putsch, and the other [conflicting] is that only one was made for A. H.!
When I get some confirmed ,positive info I'll post what I can..
Posted By: joepo Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/05/2010 04:00 PM
Ross,I have bo#88,Hans Kruger"s personalized
SA dagger.Is it possible a picture might exist
of this SA man?
Joe
Posted By: joepo Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/05/2010 04:02 PM
Ross,is it possible to find a picture of#88.,
Hans Kruger?I have his personalized SA dagger?
Joe
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/05/2010 10:12 PM
Thanks G, it looks like a one of a kind ring. Thanks for sharing it with us Blood Order fans!
Posted By: Erich-SA Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/05/2010 11:50 PM
I've never seen or heard of a ring like that before--I would also guess that it was a one of a kind piece made for AH. It should have come with a large magnifying glass, since there's no way he'd be able to read the names in the little book!
Erich
quote:
Originally posted by joepo:
Ross,is it possible to find a picture of#88.,
Hans Kruger?I have his personalized SA dagger?
Joe
'

Hi Joe:

Best chance is if a photo is attached to one of his NSDAP membership file cards. I will need his NSDAP party number and/or birthdate to check him out. This is likely to be a very common name.

Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com
www.HistricGraphics.com
Posted By: joepo Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/07/2010 02:09 AM
Thanks Ross!
Joe
Posted By: der-hase-fee Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/19/2011 11:03 PM
Originally Posted By: Erich
Does anyone have any ideas on why there are two award dates for most of the recipients ie. 1934 and 1940?


Looking at e.g. BO# 265, re-affirmation is not likely. First date is 28 May 1940, below 4. April 1935.
Posted By: Erich Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 04/20/2011 12:13 AM
I don't think the the order of the dates makes a difference. Most all the first patterns were awarded in 1934. There was a re affermation starting in 1937 to make sure that those who had the award deserved to keep it.
Posted By: Dean Perdue Re: First Blood Order Recipients - 02/18/2015 04:54 PM
Originally Posted By: Erich
The 2nd pattern was issued to Germans and Austrians who were imprisoned, wounded or lost their lives in the service of the NSDAP.


Thought this would be a place to throw in and bring a great thread btt.

Maybe all 2nd pattern blood order recipients??

While trying to research a few names off this postcard I discovered a great informative site (german) relating to some of the persons pictured.

http://9november.org/Blutzeuge/blutzeuge-1934.htm

The site shows some of the exact photographs (Franz Saureis, Franz Unterberger) that are found on the card with some information.

From my understanding Otto Planetta (3rd from left,top row) was responsible for the assasination of Dollfuss.

More than one of these men, who recieved a death sentence, uttered the last words "Heil Hitler" (like Rohm...whether or not these were Rohm's last words or made up by his executioners for propaganda reasons I wonder..). Guess that kind of loyalty deserved a blood order imo.

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