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Posted By: Ilya Herder. PGR - 11/25/2005 01:03 PM
Hello!
Question to experts. It is the original or a fake?

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Posted By: sdp Re: Herder. PGR - 11/25/2005 06:33 PM
I am far from an expert but from looking at these photos, it looks good to me.
Posted By: VIPER Re: Herder. PGR - 11/25/2005 07:35 PM
In that condition, would anyone hazzard a guess as to what it would be worth.
Posted By: sdp Re: Herder. PGR - 11/25/2005 07:48 PM
I'll take a wild guess and say about $14000.00.
Posted By: wizard2 Re: Herder. PGR - 11/25/2005 08:52 PM
Please take better pictures of the Rohm inscription.
Posted By: Robert H. Re: Herder. PGR - 11/25/2005 09:34 PM
The price would maybe right when the dagger is 110% original but who know it from this pictures. Even I would“t pay it when the dagger is original. Better pictures please, how is the screw on the revers? Untouched? Are the crossguards marked and how? Anodized scabbard? Such daggers needs the best inspections!
Posted By: sdp Re: Herder. PGR - 11/25/2005 09:39 PM
Ilya... if you're thinking of buying this, make sure you can get an inspection period to have it authenticated.
Posted By: Stirnpanzer Re: Herder. PGR - 11/26/2005 02:37 PM
$14,000 (£8,000 GBP) surly that cant be right..

I picked one up earlier this year for $1500 (including some other bits and bobs) from the soldiers daughter, almost idential to the one pictured, a herder name ground only.. which i knew was a bit of a bargin.

i was checking out the going price at the time and a couple were on uk dealers site for approx
$5,500 (£3,200 GBP) they cant have gone up that much..

ps. they are not for sale on the dealers sites any more ...
Posted By: sdp Re: Herder. PGR - 11/26/2005 04:18 PM
There's one available on this site:

http://www.regimentals.co.uk/shop/shop.php

For £7500.00

It sounds like you have been extremely lucky.
Posted By: Stirnpanzer Re: Herder. PGR - 11/26/2005 04:24 PM
I think you referring to the SS Himmler dagger ??
Posted By: sdp Re: Herder. PGR - 11/26/2005 04:30 PM
Yes, my mistake.

I still say you very lucky with that price though.
Posted By: Ilya Re: Herder. PGR - 11/27/2005 01:54 PM
??. Thank for the stated opinions. In some days I can photograph all parts of a dagger to be sure in its authenticity. I shall be grateful, if dear experts will help me to define, whether the original motto on a dagger or is a fake. That a dagger original and in very good condition, doubts are not present.
Posted By: Roland Scheck Re: Herder. PGR - 11/30/2005 01:53 PM
laughing at the prices mentioned here...smile...fellows this is a "ground" Roehm...notice the name is missing...therefore...a reasonable price would be much much less...your SteinMeister...Roland.
Posted By: sdp Re: Herder. PGR - 11/30/2005 03:19 PM
Yes, agreed.

As stirnpanzer stated, he picked one up for $1500.00, (which I think is a great price), especially in the UK... don't know how it fares in the States?
Posted By: Ilya Re: Herder. PGR - 11/30/2005 08:23 PM
Was a little surprised, when has read, that so it is easy to buy such dagger for 1500. Even it seemed to me, that it is at everyone. Very much would like to see them on this forum.

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Posted By: Stirnpanzer Re: Herder. PGR - 11/30/2005 09:52 PM
hi,

I got lucky with the price i paid... Smile

The seller's were happy... they also sent me various small items the vet picked up.

They seemed happy just to be rid of it.

Most interesting was a copy of his scrap book, following his landing in italy ....and moving up north...some nice photos / passes...
Posted By: wizard2 Re: Herder. PGR - 11/30/2005 11:35 PM
Ilya, your dagger looks to be real. However, there are some tests you can't do unless the dagger is physically present.
Posted By: Ilya Re: Herder. PGR - 12/01/2005 07:32 PM
What it for tests? A dagger at me.
Posted By: Ilya Re: Herder. PGR - 12/03/2005 04:25 PM
How to me to be convinced, what the motto on a dagger the original?
That a dagger not a fake, I have understood.
Posted By: wizard2 Re: Herder. PGR - 12/03/2005 07:35 PM
Ilya, if your dagger is real, then all the answers are there.
Posted By: Ilya Re: Herder. PGR - 12/03/2005 09:53 PM
?? wizard2 . Thank you!
Posted By: VIPER Re: Herder. PGR - 01/15/2006 06:42 PM
Here is my partial for comparrison. Hope this will help......Jimmy

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Posted By: Skyline Drive Re: Herder. PGR - 01/16/2006 03:27 AM
The first dagger posted is 100% real in my opinion. Viper your dagger is really nice with parts of the name still showing. I think close to five figures for yours. Personally I'd rather have a name only ground Rohm than a full Rohm because it tells the story. But that's just me...
Posted By: sdp Re: Herder. PGR - 01/16/2006 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Skyline Drive:
The first dagger posted is 100% real in my opinion. Viper your dagger is really nice with parts of the name still showing. I think close to five figures for yours. Personally I'd rather have a name only ground Rohm than a full Rohm because it tells the story. But that's just me...


I agree with Skyline.

Maybe my original guess as to what it's worth wasn't that bad after all?

I think stirnpanzer got a great price on his. I wouldn't mind seeing some photos for comparison.
Posted By: Stirnpanzer Re: Herder. PGR - 01/16/2006 02:57 PM
will get snapping and post some pics.... Smile
Posted By: VIPER Re: Herder. PGR - 01/16/2006 04:42 PM
Thanks Skyline. I like the name only ones too. If you hold it right you can see every letter. Plus it fits in with my ROHM: GOING GOING GONE display. Big Grin
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