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Posted By: mongobongo Pistols question - 05/29/2010 02:59 PM
Guys

Does anyone know if very very rare flintlock Duelling pistols have gone up in value over the last 4-5 years?

I have a set and need to decide what to do with them. Are they good investment pieces to hold on to. Or is it a good time to sell as sterling is so low?. They are lovely things but not my cup of tea!

Also where would you sell them to get the best money for them?.
Posted By: mongobongo Re: Pistols question - 05/29/2010 03:00 PM
I think they are worth maybe $40-50000?
Posted By: Fred Prinz - FP Re: Pistols question - 05/29/2010 09:32 PM
He used to be with Butterfield and Butterfield, and I haven't dealt with or spoken to him for years, but if I had something like that I would probably contact Greg (at Greg Martin Auctions). And if it�s not something that he might want to handle himself, I�m sure that he could give you a UK based individual or firm to contact. Best Regards, FP

Greg Martin Auctions
Posted By: A J Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 01:18 PM
I would contact Wallis and Wallis or Thomas Del Mar for a current auction result estimate
West Street Antiques in ****ing handle high end antique weaponry and have a consignment service
Posted By: A J Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 01:21 PM
Mongo trust you know where West Street Antiques are that filter is ridiculous the missing bit rhymes the flesh of a pig and begins with D
Posted By: mongobongo Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 02:32 PM
Sorry I have absolutely no idea what you mean???????????
Posted By: mongobongo Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 02:47 PM
Thanks for Wallis and Wallis AJ I have also been thinking about Christies and someone said Holts???

I know absolutely anything about guns just want to sell them!.
Posted By: Seiler Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 03:00 PM
Ask Butler at Wallis & Wallis.
Garth Vincent (specialist)01400 281358.
Blunderbuss Antiques www.blunderbuss-antiques.co.uk
OR consign to Hermann Historica,Munich.
(Think you are being optomistic pricewise)
Cheers
Seiler Wink
Posted By: mongobongo Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 03:18 PM
They were bought for �21600 ($40,500) in a Christies auction some years ago.

So assuming someone still wants to pay $40,000 usd for them they should be worth around �28,000 today in GDP??. If like daggers the value is basically set in Dollars?.

I really dont know anything about old Guns but do know from the old auction description that they are super rare and important pieces. Fingers crossed that with the passing of a bit of time this kind of stuff goes up in value as well?.
Posted By: Jim W Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 03:28 PM
I watched a set of matched pistols go at Greg Martin for better than 100K USD. My observation about Greg Martin is that there is no recession in the bidding room.

On the other hand, prices are down, so it makes sence to hold. Especially with the looming inflation coming.

Just my 2 cents

Jim
Posted By: mongobongo Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 03:40 PM
Im sure you are right but im not interested in owning them at all although they are nice things.

Just looking to sell them

Thanks
Posted By: Seiler Re: Pistols question - 05/31/2010 03:43 PM
Butler at Wallis&Wallis is a bit of an old fart
Antiques Road Show BBC 1..and I,ve had convulsions at some of his estimates Big Grin
but they DO sell some amazing sets at very high
prices.
Prepare your own "newbie" description and give them a call.Wont hurt SmileAre they boxed? Maker
named?where,special mounted fittings?
damascus barrels???approx date?
Good hunting.
PS have a look at Hermanns last Auction.
Some super rare/expspensive pieces sold.
Cheers
Seiler
Posted By: A J Re: Pistols question - 06/01/2010 07:29 AM
Sorry Mongo for the cryptic clue above but the GDC pc correctness filter didn't like D*orking when I spelt it correctly in my previous post
Posted By: mustang Re: Pistols question - 06/02/2010 05:25 PM
all depends what maker are we talking about , if they are top notch then could easily fetch big money . can you tell us the maker ?
Posted By: mongobongo Re: Pistols question - 06/02/2010 05:57 PM
These are the exact pistols from when they were bought at Christies a few years back. Im afraid they do nothing for me but if you are into stuff like this im sure they are good.

http://www.christies.com/LotFi...?intObjectID=4711747
Posted By: A J Re: Pistols question - 06/03/2010 08:06 AM
Certainly rare but with all the condition issues and replaced parts I struggle to see why they commanded double the top estimate.Don't think they will show much profit if any after commission is deducted but then the auctioers and dealers I suggested would give you an idea of current market value. At the end of the day they are worth what they get on the day(subject to reserve)and if two people are desperate for them who knows.That obviously happened the last time they sold but if they don't make reserve you got a big bill for nothing.Best of luck the best bet may be West Street Antiques on commission that way if they don't sell it costs you nothing. Have a look at www.antiquearmsandarmour.com for details
Posted By: A J Re: Pistols question - 06/03/2010 08:20 AM
The Royal Armouries in Leeds might be a possible buyer or even Boss the London gun makers who are still in business making very expensive shotguns
Posted By: mongobongo Re: Pistols question - 06/03/2010 11:13 AM
Thanks AJ, like I said I cant really comment on price as to why they are worth what as they are not my sort of things. But condition aside it seems to be that there are only three sets known to exist, so I guess they will comand a good price and were the first guns to be made by Boss. I will put them into auction and just see what happens I guess.
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