RZM M7/...Questions - 09/15/2022 08:23 AM
Dear All,
I hope this message finds you well.
I am happy to be back on GDC and thought I would begin again, as I did so many years ago, with a few questions to you.
So, I am taking a little time to memorize the RZM codes for daggers. The reference here on GDC was invaluable in this effort, thanks you Vern & all who contributed. As I went over this information, I had a few questions that I was hoping you could help me with. Thank you for any input in advance.
1) Of the 118 RZM M7/ codes, I noticed that one is repeated. Ernst Mandelwerth (Eagle above globe used on HJ knives) is listed twice as RZM 7/20 and also as M7/89. Is this correct? It would be interesting if a maker had 2 different codes, perhaps at different times? or different products?
2) I am really surprised at which companies received RZM numbers and which did not. For examples there are many very small manufacturers, who have RZM numbers (ex. Frank Weinrank M7/99, Juluis Pils, Nixdorf M7/117, etc.) but more surprisingly is the lack of some very predominant makers. No RZM code for for example the Suhl makers (Kober, Haenel, JP Sauer, etc.). Perhaps by the time RZM Cades were coming out, the Suhl makers focused on firearms? No RZM for E.Pack?! Also no RZM for; Wagner & Lang, Axt und Hauer, Pfeilringwerk, Daniel Peres, and about 20 others.. Does anyone know why? If they did not get an RZM number, then what were they doing during that time? Producing something else?
And a few other points:
-The only unknown mark is M7/107 correct? Very interesting...
-Of the 118 makers with RZM codes, we are missing only 2 images of the original mark. These are M7/88 (J. Schmidt & Sohn) and M7/97 (F. Koeller & Co. Solingen Ohligs). If anyone has a picture of the original (not RZM) mark from these firms, it would be great to see.
-Vern you have a typo in the RZM reference list; M7/91 should be Karl with a "K", rather than "C", I believe.
Tanks again for any input.
All the best,
Johnny
I hope this message finds you well.
I am happy to be back on GDC and thought I would begin again, as I did so many years ago, with a few questions to you.
So, I am taking a little time to memorize the RZM codes for daggers. The reference here on GDC was invaluable in this effort, thanks you Vern & all who contributed. As I went over this information, I had a few questions that I was hoping you could help me with. Thank you for any input in advance.
1) Of the 118 RZM M7/ codes, I noticed that one is repeated. Ernst Mandelwerth (Eagle above globe used on HJ knives) is listed twice as RZM 7/20 and also as M7/89. Is this correct? It would be interesting if a maker had 2 different codes, perhaps at different times? or different products?
2) I am really surprised at which companies received RZM numbers and which did not. For examples there are many very small manufacturers, who have RZM numbers (ex. Frank Weinrank M7/99, Juluis Pils, Nixdorf M7/117, etc.) but more surprisingly is the lack of some very predominant makers. No RZM code for for example the Suhl makers (Kober, Haenel, JP Sauer, etc.). Perhaps by the time RZM Cades were coming out, the Suhl makers focused on firearms? No RZM for E.Pack?! Also no RZM for; Wagner & Lang, Axt und Hauer, Pfeilringwerk, Daniel Peres, and about 20 others.. Does anyone know why? If they did not get an RZM number, then what were they doing during that time? Producing something else?
And a few other points:
-The only unknown mark is M7/107 correct? Very interesting...
-Of the 118 makers with RZM codes, we are missing only 2 images of the original mark. These are M7/88 (J. Schmidt & Sohn) and M7/97 (F. Koeller & Co. Solingen Ohligs). If anyone has a picture of the original (not RZM) mark from these firms, it would be great to see.
-Vern you have a typo in the RZM reference list; M7/91 should be Karl with a "K", rather than "C", I believe.
Tanks again for any input.
All the best,
Johnny