These photos interesting have seemed to me. But has not found on a forum of a special discussion for similar photos. I ask the admin of a forum to correct my mistake if photos should be in the other place.
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Excellent Photos! Always fascinating to see period images such as these. Thank you for sharing them with us.
Best regards
FJS
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Russian partisans wearing their NEW (GERMAN) daggers in the summer of 45?
Just a guess!
These officers is not partisans. They are winners!
Ilya :
YES, Precisely! Partisan a member of a group that has taken up armed resistance against an occupying enemy force, are only thought of in the most positive of terms especially when it comes to the defeat of Nazism!
Proud Nazi killers wearing THEIR hard won daggers! is what I wanted to say!
John
They sure as hell did did not take a long time for them to remove the eagles from the handles.
PJ
These are not partisans but members of the Soviet Army. I guess the US Army did not have the monopoly of war trophies
Sure would like the dagger in the first photo.Nice picture thanks for showing.
This thread got a little sidetracked so I removed a couple of posts.
The pictures are very intersting. I hope you have more to post.
Regards,
Dave
Not SA, but intrresting
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These two latest photos from Ilya are intriguing. In the first one the two men seem to be Resistance fighters, with the one in the foreground armes with the Russian Moisin-Nagant rifle complete with spike bayonet, but wearing a belt bearing a GW98 service bayonet. Nice combination of looted armament together with stock issue Russian material.
In the second photo, taken after some joint US-USSR Military ceremony (all the Russians are wearing their best dress uniforms and newly issued campaign medals). Judging by the shape of the blade, the Russian appears to be showing the American a Soviet issue Shasqua sword, although the knot on it doesn't look like the normal Russian know for this sword.
Nice, interesting image to see. Thanks for sharing it.
FJS
Though me constantly accuse that I copy another's photos and I show them on this forum, I should show all collectors two more unique photos. Them too have placed on one of Russian forums.
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Nice pictures. I guess I shouldn't be surprised they removed the grip eagle. A lot of GIs removed the diamond from HJ's or replaced the grips with clear ?lucite and put a picture of their girl underneath.
I think if it were me, I'd leave the dagger intact, but maybe not...back then, they weren't rare or as valuable!
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I guess the Russian army liked the daggers so much that they took them up in the uniform...LOL
These are great photos, very interesting - thanks for posting them !
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Wow! There is a real treasure of a photo in there!
The Social Welfare Officer dagger being worn with the Social Welfare Hangers AND you can see the ROUND holes on the scabbard.
Not exactly a period German "wearing" photo but close enough--and the only photo of it in wear I have seen or know of.
Ilya, can you still buy the stuff from the vets or their families? I guess it wasn't "political correct"
to keep the "fashist" stuff at home in the days of "uncle" Stalin, so many of those war souvenirs must have been destroyed.
Unfortunately, now to buy something interesting from successors of veterans very difficultly. The majority of successors stores subjects as memory. And basically everyone think, that they have very high cost. As a rule, the majority of trophies after war has been strongly spoiled and basically used in a life.
ILYA, What utterly Wonderful Photos, showing the wear of TR Items by Russians ...from the "Great Patriotic War."
Keep Collecting them & Posting MORE....
Thanks also for your advice regarding buying TR Items in Russia. I tried in St. P'Burg, but to no avail - it was always "....At 1st NO, then it was you have to go to see a friend of a friend, in some out of the way place..."
"IF" I could have connected on a Blade - it would have been OK. The Russian Customs NEVER used the Metal Detectors when getting through, and then back onto the Ship!
Thanks for your Advice on what special WW2 sights to see.... TXs, Dave / dblmed
I agree with Hats & Coats (No offence intended) about the rarity of seeing the Social Welfare being worn. I notice that the chap had the dagger in backwards so the Facist insignia was not shown. Probably very wise in those days as a small thing like that could get you into a LOT of trouble.
I agree Terry, I noticed that in a lot of the pictures, while somewhat difficult to tell for sure, it appears that almost all of the captured German daggers are being worn reversed in their scabbards. Take for example the fellow with HJ dagger, it is clearly reversed in the scabbard, as appears to be the case with many of the SA daggers. I was then wondering if it would it be difficult Ilya, to research if the Russian High Command issued any order to that affect for the wear of captured German daggers?
Great photos that make something of a significant social comment in IMHO. ~ Ian
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Fabulous!!
anyone care to join me in a flea market hunt in Stalingrad??????
Very interesting indeed
Thanks for showing your tremendous pix much appreciated......Regards Scott.
Wonderful pics!
Regards
Russ
Very interesting photos! Congrats, Ilya!
Ilya,
Fantastique!
Bill
Woman dressed in cossack uniform RULES
That face impresion plus SA dagger and very emotional dedication. Truly one of a kind.
BTW.: the 3 guys loaded with pistols and MP's on the picture // are soldiers of the Polish Army (typical caps and insignia).
Yes indeed, Polish soldiers with MP's and WH sabre.
The most terrible is tahat all this brave Russiand were jailed by Stalin when they get back home from Germany and lost their lifes somwhere in a deep east in work camps.
What was the reason ? They have seen too much of the West....
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The most terrible is tahat all this brave Russiand were jailed by Stalin when they get back home from Germany and lost their lifes somwhere in a deep east in work camps.
What was the reason ? They have seen too much of the West....
Seen too much of the rotten decadent west which didn't compute to the "paradise of the Prolitariet". "Fronters" who would talk...and be believed. Can't have that.
-serge-
fantasic pictures, i did enjoy these, also I saw one like these on ebay 180362945449 would of fit right in with these photo's
Thanks! Such photos really are very difficult for finding. I will add photos in a thread gradually. But I very much liked a photo with other plot.
Fantastic photos Ilya
Before Putin during the Yeltsin open season, a number of Russian dealers were setting up at the local militaria/gun shows with some incredible photos including those that documented atrocities. Never saw any with captured daggers. Thanks for sharing!
Ross Kelbaugh
www.ssdaggers.com
great pictures, thanks for showing them.
I love those pictures - I should think daggers and lugers etc were in demand and probably changed hands fairly readily too untill the system caught up.
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thanks for sharing these great photo's
I can add up , if allowed ...
Selebrating of a victory
Almost 100% of nazy daggers in Russia were denazifyzed - all swastikas and runes were removed . Most of them were used for householding - in my whifes parents village k98 bayonets are used to kill pigs .
My friends father was a KGB officer - he was holding SS dagger in exellent condition , but the eagle and runes were polished and all the paint from scabbard was removed .
Yes, I had a friend back in NJ in the mid 1950's whose dad was in WWII. The father used the daggers as hunting knives. HJ knives with sharpened blades. All the daggers were used and abused!
Great photos-would make a nice book.
Great photos mate , A treat for the eyes !
That young soldier with the first luft better 'de-Nazify' that dagger in a hurry before comrade commissar finds out and has him sent to the gulag!
Hey, me comes equal contents of the stomach, with these pictures.
SWR
...O.K..I'll bite...whaaaaat? ^^^
Woaaaaaaaaaaaah, these are amazing photos.
Like Houston said, it would make a nice book.
Thanks for sharing.
