Hello everybody!

I am asking the forum experts to help me determine whether this is a genuine Herder or just a fake, as I am thinking of buying it

Since I am a newbie in the field, I really need some seasoned member to help me buy the dagger or save my money for a real one

Thanks!

here are some more pictures

Save your money my friend..

can you explain?

I dont lik the motto...the crossguards...also the maker mark seems different from orignal,runes button also seems uncorrect...good advice from zoza

The blade markings are too precise, laser etched, not acid etched like originals. The stampings on the leather are incorrect, too fat

The scabbard may be later or be a repaint, but hard to say. The rest looks good from the pictures, including the trademark.

Luca, please add some detail to your opinions.

Every few years we have a discussion of F. Herder SS daggers. Looks like that time again

A fake blade,This Is not a Herder etch.
I'm with John and the others for the rest of this dagger.
Regards,
Gerd

Kreta,

When you say it is not a "Herder Etch", what are you using for a comparison?

I'm using real blades for comparsion Dave
Here is a pic of a real Herder A.S. motto and one of a european fake.This one was posted by a guy from europe in 2014.
Note the "open" M of Meine.
I've also seen these fakes,a few times in Germany!
Regards,
Gerd

I have seen those fakes as well. The photo posted was not high resolution, but ...

Here is what it looks like blown up a bit.

"Open" ?? ... I don't think so

What does everyone else think? Open?

Dave,
sorry,but you get me wrong.
The one i posted was not in relation to the dagger in question,just another fake etch.
Gerd

My concerns are also for the crossguards that not seems deep(seems suhl made) and also the runes on rune button seems too fat. What do you think about the shining grip? May be the light but seems painted last week :-) just my poor impressions

Thank you all for your opinion, I would be grateful if you could get into the details and explain what and why doesn't look correct, this would really be helpful for a newbie like me

Take also a Look at the Motto pattern! Note the T of Treue.
This one is bad,as the guys said above,
Gerd

Gerd, You are right, that T looks just plain wrong...