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Posted By: pvon Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 03:44 PM
Lets see a little black!

I will start
PVON

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Posted By: JohnZ Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 03:48 PM
I only have three SS Daggers.

All Eickhorns, of course!

First up is a the large double oval smooth tailed squirrel over CE TMed one.

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Posted By: JohnZ Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 03:51 PM
2nd up is the 941/39 SS Rat Tail squirrel TMed one. This one I bought in Paul's room at an SOS a couple of years back.

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Posted By: JohnZ Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 03:53 PM
The last one is a full Rohm numbered 3681 and researched.

John

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Posted By: ETF Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 04:11 PM
pvon and John Z.,

Outstanding daggers! WOW! Great photography as well. Thanks for sharing.
Ed
Posted By: Ed Sunday Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 04:43 PM
Great stuff here !
Posted By: frank Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 04:52 PM
Hello,
Pvon and John thank you for showing your pretty blacks. MY dream to get one, may one day, who knows.
Abraço.
Frank
Posted By: trussa Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 09:41 PM
wouuuu..... wonderfoll ss daggers.... special Röhm dagger!!!

trussa
Posted By: Erich Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/16/2013 10:39 PM
Black is beautiful and really like the Allach Squirrel!
Posted By: Pitbull63 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/17/2013 02:21 AM
Gentleman,

Outstanding examples from the dark side!!!

Rich
Posted By: Barry Brown Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/17/2013 10:25 AM
Type 1 M36.

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/17/2013 02:58 PM
John Z

those 3 daggers are really nice! Can't go wrong with Eickhorns!

Barry

That chained SS is stunning looker!
The kind thats been put away for some time!

The detail is something!

PVON
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/17/2013 03:16 PM
This forum is known for collectors having great SS daggers
and I hope this week they share their treasures!

You can post related stuff that makes nice display!

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Posted By: Drimmer17 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/17/2013 08:43 PM
an amazing thread....

congrats
Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/18/2013 08:49 PM
Great stuff,guys smile

Gerd
I collect photos of them in wear as I journey through the SS microfilm records in the National Archives. SS daggers being worn in formal portraits are not as common as you might think. They can also be particularly difficult to see on the microfilm in light of the German photographers' penchant to pose Allgemeine-SS men against a dark background. And it is hard to find them not grasping the handle.

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh

www.ssdaggers.com
www.ss-numbers.com

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Here are a few...

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/20/2013 02:55 PM
Ross

Thanks for showing and you are doing collectors a great service!

Skyline Drive

I was hoping you would add something!

Enjoy when you show daggers and join discussion!


This forum needs your input!

Thanks for showing

PVON
Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/20/2013 04:30 PM
Here are two rare RZM bird's.

Gerd

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Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/21/2013 11:54 AM
Some Hammesfahr smile ,one with a number.
Regards,
Gerd

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Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/21/2013 02:55 PM
RZM 15/39..

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Posted By: Dave Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/22/2013 12:02 AM
The Guys

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/22/2013 12:11 AM
Thanks Kreta Nice!

Dave

Appears to be some beautys! But looks like Stevie Wonder took this blurry pic!

shocked
Posted By: stingray Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/22/2013 12:23 AM
Here is my baby

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Posted By: Dave Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/22/2013 02:08 AM
Paul,

That pic is 6-8 years old at least. Digital cameras are a lot better today as are the re-sizing programs. But, you probably get the idea laugh

Dave

PS I really do appreciate the effort you have taken to post pictures of various items Many thanks
I had been looking for a numbered M36 that I could research and picked this one up at last year’s SOS. It was brought in by a picker years ago to a show in the Midwest. The dagger has an unmarked blade, all nickel fittings, Type II nickel chain and painted scabbard. It is numbered 111 920 on the underside of the lower cross guard, blade, and scabbard throat. Doesn’t look like it has ever been cleaned or taken apart. Have to admit that I’d really like it even if it was not numbered.

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh

www.ssdaggers.com
www.ss-numbers.com

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I particularly like how the paint on the back of the scabbard is worn from rubbing on his coat.

Ross Kelbaugh

www.ssdaggers.com
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Adolf Hellinger, SS No. 111 920 joined the SS in April 1933 and was soon placed in an administrative position. He income of 200+ R.M. certainly enabled him to purchase a complete M1936 chained dagger without updating his M1933 dienstdolch. In 1942 Hellinger joined the Waffen-SS and served in the SS-Polizei Grenadier Division from July 1943 until the end of the war. He was awarded the KVK II mit Schwertern in 1944.

My experience has been that M36's that are numbered are less common than M33's and certainly the Röhm SS-Ehrendolches and those that are identifiable even more so.

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh

www.ssdaggers.com
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Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/22/2013 07:52 PM
A nice chained Ross,with a rare motto type.

Gerd
Ross... never seen a Type II skull link that looked quite like yours. It looks more like a Type III than a Type II.

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Now that is what is rarely seen, a numbered chained SS dagger with the owner identified. Stunning piece all by itself. Congrats Ross !

Serge
Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 04/23/2013 08:48 PM
Here is another RZM from my collection,RZM 1053. The tang is double marked!

Gerd

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/04/2013 04:37 PM
So many wonderful looking daggers have been shown by you collectors!

Thanks for showing and lets see some more!

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/04/2013 04:57 PM
Some more beautys!

A few SS daggers I had pics of I don't remember where I got from! The Himmler!

But visors I had many! And am showing a beauty but hard to see SS officer visor with a army eagle on it! Came with a Reichsfurung officer cuff title!

My dad got it for me with a box of stuff for $600.00

Those were the days! Missed the uniform! Guy sold it at a beer joint befor my dad got to it!

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/04/2013 05:25 PM
As I think back on that Himmler it my be JR's I bought a few SS daggers off him years ago!

He might have sent some pics of items for sale back then!

The reason I believe now it could be his is the sharp detail pics of Himmler and Rohm daggers!

I was hoping he would add some pics to this thread but he is a big shot dealer now! shocked grin

Hard to get him to add anymore!

Maybe Gary has something to show!

How about JR's son! Its got to be in his blood! Show us some SS daggers little JR! Chris I believe!

Maybe you would like to add some thought so us collectors could learn a little about you!

What do you like!


Come on JR lets see some SS !

Here is the pic of JR, Son, Gary! At SOS this past year!

OK I had my fun so lets hope the Meda team steps up! whistle

PVON

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Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/04/2013 08:51 PM
Originally Posted By: pvon
Some more beautys!

A few SS daggers I had pics of I don't remember where I got from! The Himmler!

But visors I had many! And am showing a beauty but hard to see SS officer visor with a army eagle on it! Came with a Reichsfurung officer cuff title!

My dad got it for me with a box of stuff for $600.00

Those were the days! Missed the uniform! Guy sold it at a beer joint befor my dad got to it!


Some fine daggers with dedication!

Gerd
Sometimes it's too hard to resist black beauty... blush

Best regards,

Herman

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/05/2013 11:15 PM
Thanks for showing Herman! Some real lookers!

PVON
Posted By: Ed Martin Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/07/2013 09:24 PM
OK here's my two a Boker and an RZM 1196/38 unknown maker

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Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/07/2013 09:36 PM
Ed and Hermann,wonderful! smile

Gerd
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/08/2013 02:27 PM
Ed

Sure looks like some fine looking daggers!

Anyone want to have pics resized and posted please send to me!

email pvon67@aol.com


Thanks

PVON
Posted By: Ed Martin Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/08/2013 05:16 PM
Thanks Pvon my daggers were bought 10+ yrs ago so the pickens were better than. I just found a new resizing at ResizeMyPicture.com free n works fast.I used it for the pictures shown,resizing was one of the reasons for not showing photos
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/09/2013 12:38 AM
Ed

Your right on some fine SS daggers and for that matter other daggers being around in that time frame!

The choice ones were easier then but notall!

Thanks for showing!

PVON
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/13/2013 12:53 PM
Lets add something black!
Collectors dream!

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/13/2013 01:04 PM
Any one have SS armbands? SS tinnies,pics,medals
or related items? Please show them!

How about SS chained daggers?

I just posted a few pics of one!

Any one want to show type 1 or 2 or 3!

Would love to learn more!

Nickel,plated, early and late!

I know some of you have great knowledge and superb examples!

PVON

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Posted By: JohnZ Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/13/2013 03:55 PM
I have a couple of SS cuff titles and such.

Mostly Norwegian-German connected.

John

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/14/2013 01:26 PM
Thanks for sharing John!

My knowledge is very limited on Norwegian SS connected
items!

Can't be very easy to find!

PVON
Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/14/2013 05:04 PM
Originally Posted By: JohnZ
I have a couple of SS cuff titles and such.
Mostly Norwegian-German connected.
John

Wow,great stuff John smile

Gerd
Not only do I research them, but I am also a collector. This M33 SS Böker dagger came into the Max Show a couple of years ago and ended up in the possession of Wolf-Hardin/Joe Pankowski who contracted me to do the research which I completed. It later turned up in a Gottlieb auction without the research and I was pleased to purchase it though the bidding was spirited. SS daggers with the “Fürth“ etching are rare and very few are identifiable to a specific SS Mann. SS-Hauptscharführer Hans Haubner, SS No. 47 125 attended the Fürth school during the summer of 1934. What I particular liked about this one is that his stammkarte recorded his attendance there making the only other one I know of that is so documented. See it at: http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=279968&page=1

In 1942, Haubner was promoted to Hauptsturmführer and was assigned in 1943 to the 14. SS-Freiwilligen Division “Galician” initially made up of Ukrainian volunteers. In August 1944 he was killed in a partisan attack while being transported on a train in Slovakia. Haubner is buried in Block 5 among the unknown soldiers in Vazec, Slovakia, since his remains could not be positively identified for an individually marked grave. Though no photo of him as yet been located, I like 'em like this.

Enjoy!

Ross Kelbaugh

www.ssdaggers.com
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www.HistoricGraphics.com

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Posted By: trussa Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/24/2013 06:43 PM
my Babys.....

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/24/2013 10:28 PM
Thanks for sharing Ross!

Some amazing looking stuff and the history behind known items
sure is special!

Hope others contact you for info!


Cuff titles and such!
PVON

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Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/25/2013 07:14 AM
Originally Posted By: trussa
my Babys.....


Hi Kurt,
i never saw your "Bandenkampfabzeichen" smile , a very desirable bagde!

Gerd
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 05/26/2013 05:52 PM
Pic

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small SS figure!

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/05/2013 12:25 AM
Some Black!

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/05/2013 12:27 AM
The above photo was from the great Bob Colemans collection!

I used to post his photos and he shared so much!

But that was long ago!

You don't see this stuff!

PVON
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/05/2013 12:45 AM
Any one care to show the black stuff?

This was the kind of stuff shared in the old days!


Dave

Get a camera and snap some photo's! 8 yrs ago you took pics and they were blurry! cry

Your the big dog and moderator of the black stuff!

You are blocking the hottest forum section because you won't
get a camera!

Can't just say junk on the czech stuff!

Or get some help from the many collectors that can snap a picture and lets get this rolling! shocked

Kick the other moderators in the tush and give them fresh help!

So many good collectors to share collections and pics and generate topics!

The old school boys don't care! Give them a retirement watch
if they don't want to do this! sleep

I don't care if they are the biggest and greatest since sliced bread! sleep

If they don't post then who cares!

I would rather have a guy or guys with a desire to jumpstart this forum!

Vern

I hope you read this also!

Just my thoughts!

PVON

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Posted By: Dave Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/05/2013 02:19 AM
Pvon!

Thanks!

Got a camera!

Dave
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/08/2013 10:19 PM
Will be showing some black!

Ryan Sellick has been kind to answer my call in sending me pics
I asked for to share with members!

Will place a few here and then to proper sections!

Some really fine stuff has been shown already and have recieved a very lukewarm response!

I have no problem posting it in the other forum but at 1 time we had members that craved the good stuff!

PVON

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Posted By: Barry Brown Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/08/2013 10:56 PM
SS-RZM helmet with 15th Company SS Germania property marking.

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/08/2013 11:30 PM
Thats nice Barry!

I know you have shown fine edgeweapons!

SS helmets not a easy find!

A SS ring box and ring which will post on Honor Ring forum!

More coming!

PVON

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/09/2013 12:01 AM
Ryan showing SS dagger!

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/09/2013 12:06 AM
How about some cuff titles!

Ryan is showing these 2 and will be placed in cloth section!

Just outstanding stuff!

PVON

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Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/09/2013 07:47 AM
Originally Posted By: Barry Brown
SS-RZM helmet with 15th Company SS Germania property marking.

Barry,
this is a real "cool"helmet!


Originally Posted By: pvon
Ryan showing SS dagger!

Is this an 1053?

Gerd
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/09/2013 08:30 PM
Just a taste!

Going to post in headgear and uniform section some fine Waffen SS visors that Ryan Sellick has shared with members!

I have never had Waffen SS visors just black ones!

They are to be sure very desirable and hard to find!

Just choice stuff! Not 1 but 2! Can you believe it!!!!!!

PVON

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Posted By: wotan Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/09/2013 10:45 PM
Ok, something black...

M33 by KLAAS, early saber by WKC, Degen early unmarked, 40ties type ring, bronze BKA, M36 early all nickle silver unmarked.

Regards,

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Posted By: luca Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/11/2013 04:17 PM
wonderful items...next days i'll have my first ss dagger...nothing similar to these wonders.
p.s. ryan how can i cantact you?' your pm box is full:)
Posted By: trussa Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/12/2013 05:01 PM
ss helmet combat......

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decal.....

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Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/12/2013 05:15 PM
Originally Posted By: wotan
Ok, something black...

M33 by KLAAS, early saber by WKC, Degen early unmarked, 40ties type ring, bronze BKA, M36 early all nickle silver unmarked.

Regards,

Nice stuff Wotan.Always a pleasure to see a BKA and of course a nice M33! laugh

Regards,
Gerd
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/12/2013 10:01 PM
Wotan

A wonderful display of fine and outstanding items!

A big thanks for sharing!


Luca

Can't wait to see your dagger!

Trussa

A fine helmet! Thanks for sharing!

PVON
Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/12/2013 10:34 PM
A visor belonging to John pepera who I understand passed!

Had stunning SS stuff!

pPVON

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Posted By: ETF Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/13/2013 06:06 AM
Lots of great SS (black items). Terrific photos as well. Here are some of my "black" items. The scarlet and the black....it is a great movie as well.

'The Scarlet and the Black' (True Story)

Hugh O'Flaherty is a Vatican official in 1943-45 who has been hiding downed pilots, escaped prisoners of war, and Italian Resistance families.
Stars:
Gregory Peck, Christopher Plummer, John Gielgud

If you haven't seen the movie it's worth watching.

I included a couple of photos of one of my SS pistols with holster with the "Black" items.

Regards to All.
Ed

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Posted By: ETF Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/13/2013 06:12 AM
A few more "black" items from my collection.

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Outstanding Thanks for posting!!! Keep em coming!!! cheers, Ryan
Posted By: ETF Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/13/2013 04:03 PM
Here's my EM buckle and belt.

It is terrific to see all of the great SS items that you all have.....many outstanding artifacts!

Ed

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/13/2013 09:58 PM
ETF

Amazing stuff shown!That 1st chained SS is killer,named SS dagger,SS helmet,buckle! Oh heck I like it all!

thanks for showing some items from your collection!

PVON
Posted By: ETF Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/14/2013 03:29 AM
Thanks for your nice comments pvon.
Ed
Posted By: JR Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/20/2013 11:14 PM
One for Paul's excellent work, and for this topic. JR

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Posted By: pvon Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/21/2013 12:46 AM
SHUT IT DOWN LETS GO HOME!!!!!!!!!! shocked

Thanks for sharing JR!

Beautiful daggers!

PVON
Posted By: ETF Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/21/2013 03:11 AM
Yep! Those are beautiful! What an impressive display! Wonderful photography.....well done!
Ed
Posted By: luca Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/21/2013 10:09 AM
what a wonderful scenery...:))
Posted By: kreta1961 Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/21/2013 07:54 PM
Originally Posted By: JR
One for Paul's excellent work, and for this topic. JR

Great stuff JR !
And here are my favorite ones,Böker of course. smile Three Gr.Röhm and two with the big logo.

Gerd

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Posted By: JR Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/21/2013 09:49 PM
Three thumbs up Mate!
I still believe Pack is the best maker
Posted By: ETF Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/23/2013 12:47 AM
Beautiful Gerd! Just outstanding....very exciting!
Posted By: ALMA Re: Can I get something black! Lets see it! - 06/24/2013 04:27 PM
I want to add a M33 ground Rohm Robert Klaas. I have not seen many of them. Best regards

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Posted By: kreta1961 l - 06/24/2013 06:41 PM
Originally Posted By: ALMA
I want to add a M33 ground Rohm Robert Klaas. I have not seen many of them. Best regards

Wow,that's a pretty rare beast! I would steal for it laugh laugh
Posted By: ETF Re: l - 06/24/2013 11:40 PM
Wow! What a beauty! The handle, motto and blade are incredible! The lacquer on the scabbard looks like 99%.
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