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Posted By: Jack1234 SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 07:30 PM
Hello, My name is Jack and I have a question.
My Grandpa currently owns a SS himmler honor dagger,of this I am sure. He obtained it from a polack that fought in the WWII, and I don't think this is a fake copy, but can you help me with some "basics" that i can look at , to see if it's authentic?

also, It's in Perfect condition, i will try to upload a picture as soon as i can.It has no markings, no pieces that has fallen off,no clear signs of damage, it's basically in really good condition. It has it scabbard left,this aswell in perfect condition. I wonder, how much could this be worth, and how do i/where do i sell it?(Im really new to this,and my english is not the best,so for that i apoligize)
Posted By: Grumpy Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 07:43 PM
First, it should be made by "Eickhorn." No other maker is known to have made "Himmler" daggers. Photos are needed to explore its authenticity further, as well as its value.
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 07:49 PM
It has a marking with the letters RZ and then "M7-36" under it
Pictures will be provided tomorrow if possible! THanks for the reply
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 07:49 PM
on the basis of the "blade"
Posted By: zoza Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 07:54 PM
sorry to be the one to tell you, but it is fake,, based on what you wrote, no Himmler dagger has a RZM mark, frown
Posted By: patrice Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 07:55 PM

Sorry for the bad news but it is 100% fake.
The blade has to be from Eickhorn and no other maker marked, neither can it be written with an RZM logo.
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 07:58 PM
i will provide pictures soon, even thought if it's fake, but it really shoulnt be, since he obtained it from a polack,as said,who fought in ww2...
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 07:59 PM
there are some acorns on the blade, and on the scabbard there's also some acorns, aswell as the "German bird" with the swastika, and the SS runes.. hope this helps some atleast..
Posted By: patrice Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 08:23 PM

Every con artist in the world will tell you that the dagger comes from a WWII veteran.
As they say, " don't believe the story but just the facts ".
Posted By: Grumpy Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 08:26 PM
Sad to say, it does sound like a fake. M7/36 is not a known SS dagger maker of any type. The marking is found on some SS fake daggers. It would be interesting to see your photos, though. It sounds like it could be an SS honor dagger with a "Himmler" dedication. Several versions of fakes exist in this configuration.
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 09:21 PM
hey guys and thanks for the info. I found a thread here; http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=240366#Post240366

it LOOKS almost identical to this one,from what i can recall,with the RMZ marking etc, just that it's " m7/36" and not 83.
it has the "meine ehre .." marking.


but as said, i will post some pictures (probably tomorrow) later on.
Posted By: Jim W Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 09:46 PM
Jack, the dagger you gave the link to is not a Himmler Honor. what makes you think you have a Himmler Honor dagger. The Himmler Honor dagger has a specific inscription on the reverse blade.
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 09:52 PM
oh...well sorry then, as i said,im very new to this...my grandpa got a similar dagger to that which i linked to. i will go to him right now and retrive i,and i should have some pictures up and running in about 1 hour.

i though the "inscription" was what made it a "himmler" dagger..i read that at another webpage...but i will go and get he dagger now,and take some pictures of it!
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:08 PM
some pics

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Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:09 PM
heres more

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Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:09 PM
some more, i got 3 left

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Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:11 PM
last ones,hope they help!

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Posted By: anonymous 123 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:16 PM
Sorry:
Your dagger is a very inexpensive copy which was probably made in Spain. There are many things about it which aren't right but I'll just point one out. No Himmler Honor Dagger was ever made with an RZM stamp on the blade.
Jim
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:28 PM
okey,well im abit dissapointed,since the polack said he "captured" it or so, and 40 years ago he gave it to my grandfather... well thanks for the answer atleast,i really hoped it was legit thought..thanks again!
Posted By: lloyd Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:49 PM

jim m is absolutely 100% correct sorry to say.
Posted By: wes_143 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:56 PM
at least he gave it to your grandfather and no money was lost.
Posted By: Jack1234 Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/12/2011 11:59 PM
well, that is true,but still i am dissapointed. I felt really good, or proud even,to own a real SS dagger, im a big fan or enthusiast of the WW2, not only in daggers,but in other weapons,and battles...

thought i have a friend in finland,who keeps 2 Mosin Nagant - rifles for me, they are pretty cool=)

But still,back to the dagger,i am as said very dissapointed..
Posted By: Larry C Re: SS Himmler Honor dagger - question - 03/13/2011 03:07 AM
would make for a great conversation piece and paper weight
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