1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 01:26 AM
A nice 1196 out of my collection.
g24t
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g24t
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 01:27 AM
photo
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 01:28 AM
photo1
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 01:29 AM
photo3
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 03:52 AM
Nice dagger. Great hanger. Congrats! 
Did the hanger come with it?
-wagner-
Did the hanger come with it?
-wagner-
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 01:05 PM
yes it did,
g24t
g24t
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 02:00 PM
Can we more of the hanger ?
Thanks - Dave
Thanks - Dave
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 02:23 PM
HANGER
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 02:27 PM
PHOTO1
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 02:36 PM
MORE PHOTO
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 02:36 PM
ANOTHER PHOTO
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 07:27 PM
Thanks for the additional photos. Looks like an early pre-regulation, pre-RZM variant to me.
Are there any markings on either the metal or leather? That is a rare hanger in my opinion.
Very unusual to find it on any dagger, especially a 1938. I like it a lot!
But still would like better photos.
I know sounds like it's asking alot but you don't see these everyday.
-wagner-
Are there any markings on either the metal or leather? That is a rare hanger in my opinion.
Very unusual to find it on any dagger, especially a 1938. I like it a lot!
But still would like better photos.
I know sounds like it's asking alot but you don't see these everyday. -wagner-
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 07:37 PM
Is that common variation of the RZM stamp for SS daggers? I mean the RZM itself, with the single full circle?
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 08:00 PM
The RZM mark on SS and SA daggers varies greatly. For an instition that was supposed to bring uniformity to the political pattern daggers, they certainly forgot to specify uniformity of their own marks.
That particular one is OK. I have seen it many times. It is the only SS RZM dagger mark that uses the regular letters for "SS" instead of the lightning bolts.
In my opinion, that is not a vertical hanger. It is a short strap hanger and belt loop that someone had tried to make look like a vertical hanger. The short strap hanger, minus the snap clip and the little keeper has been threaded through the belt loop and carrying ring and buckled on the front of the scabbard.
Dave
That particular one is OK. I have seen it many times. It is the only SS RZM dagger mark that uses the regular letters for "SS" instead of the lightning bolts.
In my opinion, that is not a vertical hanger. It is a short strap hanger and belt loop that someone had tried to make look like a vertical hanger. The short strap hanger, minus the snap clip and the little keeper has been threaded through the belt loop and carrying ring and buckled on the front of the scabbard.
Dave
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 08:18 PM
The hanger looks as selfmade,nevertheless-this is a great dagger-ensemble.
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 08:59 PM
additional hanger photo
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 09:00 PM
additional photo
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/19/2007 09:01 PM
noticwe the 2 and the 4 on the hanger
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Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/20/2007 12:47 PM
Think Dave has hit the nail on the head if you rearrange the hanger parts that are shown you have a complete rig including the scarce belt loop just missing the wee leather keeper on the short hanger still a nice rig IMO
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/20/2007 01:33 PM
Thanks for all of the information, If I can find out how to sell stuff on the forum, I may be selling some of my daggers. I have made a trade for this one for a 1908 Bulguria luger,
I think its a even trade, hope so.
g24t
I think its a even trade, hope so.
g24t
Re: 1196/38/SS - 07/20/2007 02:34 PM
The 2 and 4 on the hanger is RZM in an open bottomed circle I think