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den70, Ilya, Paul, Serge (aka Wagner), SSUR
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by Stirnpanzer
Am trying to find out more about the HJ Leaders (following a recent purchase of one)

I believe it was from available to Stammf├╝hrer rank upwards, and then fulfilling some criteria for getting one and then getting approval from the top...

What was the criteria for getting one, ? and anyone ever speculated on the numbers awarded ?

Thanks Mark
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by wotan
Originally Posted by Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)
Did the document and the dagger come from the same person?

Hello, I was told so (the group did come from a collector) but I am always a bit sceptical concerning groups and I have no proof.

This doc is one of the very few award docs for an edged weapon (eg. SSleader┬┤s degens, NPEA daggers, navy shooting price daggers also had award docs) and is therefore interesting for collectors of edged weapons even if they "normally" do not collect paper items.

I am aware of two or three such HJleader dagger docs in reference books but they are all cut down. As you can see the whole document is very large and does not fit into any document wrapper so the other known were -mostly period- cut down. Mine is the only one I know in full, original format.
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by wotan
Believe me, the award document is MUCH more impressive in original than shown in these reference books! It has several pages(!) embossed eagle and much more to see.

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by Ronald Weinand
Ronald Weinand
Woton is way out in front of me! Pyon, you are too kind. God I love this hobby (NOT THE POLITICAL MOVEMENT), but the years of history and all the trappings. I am just glad my Dad was there and brought some things home that started me.
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