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ABTmRw, ASmith, DeLano80, Evgeniy, SpitfireVb
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by Alexander
Alexander
Hello!

I'd like to make my first post to this form a bit of a big request.
I'm looking for someone who makes reproductions of honor rings that can personally size and inscribe them.

The story behind my request.
Although I know very little about the specifics, apparently there is an original honor ring in the family, I personally have never seen it, but I have been told by my now late grandfather and surviving older uncles that it belonged originally to an ancestor of mine named "Heinz Badenhop" my mother's family in America still carries a modified version of the original name as "Badenhope" an attempt at making it easier for English speakers to pronounce correctly, although it still is always butchered. He was (as I've been told) and as I've been able to find out through limited research with records and family letters and the German War Graves Commission's search ability. Born in 1924 in Gilten and fell into soviet hands very late in the war. He died/was worked to death/was executed in Soviet captivity in 1946.

As stated above, I have never seen the original ring, and can't fully verify the tale, but regardless would love to have a reasonable reproduction of it made, they are all very similar in basic appearance and only the inner band differed from ring to ring in the wide sense of things. I'd like a very good replica made, something that honors the man that originally wore it and earned the right to wear it. I do not want something that is so convincing that it could be sold off as a real one though, something well made and very real looking, made from the same quality metal and cast correctly, but not a fake.

Does anyone know of someone that does custom made reproductions that could be sized correctly for my finger and that could be inscribed with his family name in the correct font and everything. I'm unsure of its original award date, so I will just choose a random date that fits within the timeline that he was likely to have been awarded it.

I've heard good thing about a gentleman named "Hapur" that makes customized high quality rings in the original materials with original equipment, but can't find any way to contact him or know of anyone who does.

Any idea of the costs involved?

Any information anyone can give would be very much appreciated!

I'd like to end this with a statement that I am not a "nazi" or believe in what they fought for, but I did have a-lot of family that did, 13 of them were killed in WWII in service to Germany. I have no respect for the ideals that they may have fought for, and I'm sure to an extent they didn't either. But I do respect them and honor them for the very real sacrifice that the rendered unto their people and their nation, I've never liked how people talk about all Germans and German soldiers of the era as monsters. They were ordinary men doing what they thought was right for their nation. And I can respect that. I have many of their grave sites pinpointed and plan on visiting a few of them each time I travel with every new trip I take to Europe.

I'll end this with an interesting but unrelated picture of my Great Grandfather (Johannes Friedrich Heinrich Badenhop) posing for a picture with his friends during the first world war.
Hes the shorter gentleman on the bottom, second from the left. He did, thankfully come home, and brought a-lot of mental scars home with him. He left for America in the early 1920's leaving most of his family behind.

Many thanks and best wishes of a happy thanksgiving
-Alexander Ross
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by Evgeniy
Evgeniy
Was made copy of engraving from Karl Wolff ring
IMO look very good
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by Evgeniy
Evgeniy
and some shots to text...
This type of skull, it seems to me, was a search for a new design, which also continued in 1939
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by hapur
hapur
Long time since I was here last time. Finally had a little free time to make some new dies.
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by Evgeniy
Evgeniy
I finished reconstructing the skull from my original 1938 ring and made a copy of it. A lot of time was spent on clarifying the lost details, as well as understanding that the wear also touched the chin of the skull and the chin was a little worn, perhaps the owner wore another ring, which was erased.
I was looking for a similar skull for a long time in order to make a reconstruction, finally such a copy was found, and although it was a ring dated 1940, I sometimes meet such inconsistencies, most likely there was a good blank that was used to make the ring in 1940, all these divisions for a year is a pure convention, but it’s more convenient for me to explain the situation. And although we know that no two skulls are the same (because they were subjected to a very large manual refinement), nevertheless, I rocked a skull that would be as close as possible to the skull from my 1938 ring, in the end I found it and made a reconstruction. But I tried to show everything in the photo, as well as to present the skulls from the rings of 1938, they all have a similar type, as you can see, but of course this is not the law, there are rings of 1938 with skulls of the type 33-37.
From the remaining traces of cut teeth, I found out (in one of the photos I schematically showed their location) that there were 5 teeth in a row.
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by Evgeniy
Evgeniy
As sing in song "With a little help of my friend" , I copied, restored and finished new skull - 1940 year, surname cant show, sorry ...
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by Evgeniy
Evgeniy
And final editional of Dietrich skull
IMO look the best !
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by Evgeniy
Evgeniy
yes it was, but it was done unofficially, by the owner of the ring, for example rubins
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by Simone
Simone
Hi to all!

I’m new here, so let me present to you…

I’m from Italy and 8 years ago I bought the Antonio Scapini book with an Italian made ring copy in 925 silver:

[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]

After 8 years of wearing, the ring looks like new but now it’s too small for me, so I ordered another one in bigger size from the same site. What I received it’s uncommentable, ahahahah:

[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
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by Simone
Simone
Thanks!
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by Evgeniy
Evgeniy
restored skull from original ring of 40 year
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by ed773
ed773
Things here in the US are very different now, than before covid.
I now live in Missouri. Seems when I buy something from New York or New Jersey, it will take 10 0r 11 days for the USPS money order to get there.
But I receive the package back in 6 or 7 days. Same thing to the North West also.
Many businesses here are still using Covid and Truck drivers excuses for there lack of interest in doing there jobs. The NEW USA.
Ed
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by Simone
Simone
@ ABTmRw

Sorry, I read only now your question

I ordered a 13 size (22,2 mm) that’s perfect for my finger ring

I wear it on the right with the skull not facing me, for personal reasons

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by Mikee
Mikee
E,

You are definitely perfecting your art. I agree with G you do have the best ring out there. Good job!
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by Gaspare
Gaspare
WoW!! , that came out very good.

I would say you as of now you probably have the best copy in the marketplace ! .
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by Gaspare
Gaspare
[that original 40 is a small size!]

Very interesting to see the different wear on the 38s.. With some rings of 38 that you mentioned with the early skulls it is probably just Gahr not wanting to waste and using a skull from a prior batch.

- Your restored copy came out magnificent! I congratulate you and your hard work and thanks for posting here for the members to see....
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by Gaspare
Gaspare
Good to see you Hap!!

- Yes, That is a real fine couple rings you made there!
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by Simone
Simone
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]

So, I sent the comparison to the vendor asking for a replacement and finally I received a nicer ring, specially made for me:

[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]

But after this experience I started to search for a better quality copy and I found Evgeniy, initially I was a bit afraid to order from Russia because the actual situation, in fact the first attempt to send money to him with online bank transfer was a failure, the second attempt going physically to my bank gone fine.

Evgeniy starts to work and later sent me some pics of the finished ring: it’s a beauty!

The first attempt to receive the ring was a failure: the Russian customs sent it back to Evgeniy without any explaination. The second attempt gone fine and this is a comparison with my new Italian made ring and my new Evgeniy ring!

[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
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by Simone
Simone
I’m absolutely in love with my ring, I wear it everyday and I can’t stop to watch it every couple of minutes ahahahah now it starts to get some patina and the inner layer it’s a bit worn

When I can afford it, I will buy the others too!

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
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by Gaspare
Gaspare
Es rings are so good that I think one day in the future when these HRs display honest wear and tear and all of us have gone to our rewards that these will be looked upon as authentic!

There used to be a lot of info here on the Japanese reproductions. We had a member from Japan that claimed to be making them and even had a website.. - It was pretty much those rings we started using the term SuperFakes.....

Years ago there was a problem and we lost many back pages . You might get lucky though with a few searches and a old topic about them show up..
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