they are everywhere.. I took 5 sec. and found another on German eBay... IF you like them go right ahead and buy them..

My opinion,,band way too thick, too wide,,and not even polished.. Besides the fact it looks brand new.. But as I mentioned you like it go right ahead. But IF you wait,, I guarantee you one will come up a lot cheaper....

there are some with a slightly different band, 2 row teeth, nice thin band and full finish all around I would say are pre war , maybe even wartime but I do not collect this pattern.. But please, feel free to form your own opinion.