Re: Das Alte Schutzenscheibe (The old Shooting Target)
Mikee
04/27/2024 07:15 PM
Hi Wetzel,
I remember when Joe posted those targets. He is missed by all of us! Thank you, yes I have seen so many different ways that was used to mark and identify the winners and shooters. If I can get some time I will post some mare targets. Best!
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Re: Das Alte Schutzenscheibe (The old Shooting Target)
C. Wetzel-20609
04/27/2024 05:41 PM
I found that JoeW posted two (1940 & 1939) German Police targets, 03/11/2006 on the thread "Shooting Awards / Prizes (Non Tyrol)" found on page 8. These are some very nice targets posted by JoeW.
Mikee, I did finally find a post WW Schutzenscheibe listed on the German eBay site with a tiny nail used to secure the small bullseye to the target. I also found a 2018 target with white pegs to mark the bullet holes and a red peg used to mark the winning "Kill Shot". All the pegs had the shooter's numbers on the peg heads.
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Re: Knife of the Dutch youth organization.
Gaspare
04/27/2024 02:32 PM
So a slight disagreement on the handle... There is 2 types of ivory. Elephant tusk and walrus tusk. There is a way if distinguishing between the two. The grain is different... ,,and between the celluloid and ivory there must be a weight difference.
- either way,, a nice looking and rare knife!
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Re: Knife of the Dutch youth organization.
wotan
04/27/2024 10:12 AM
The grip plates of the dutch youth knife are without any doubt artificial ivory, most likely celluloid (I think there are ao othe "massive" materials, remember army daggers with artificial ivory grip). Real ivory has quite a different look. C. Wetzel-20609 does show us nice specimen of artificial ivory to compare. Regards,
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Re: Knife of the Dutch youth organization.
C. Wetzel-20609
04/26/2024 10:05 PM
The handle scales are Celluloid:
From The Spruce Crafts, "What Is Celluloid and What Does It Look Like? Most people recognize the pale-yellow pieces with graining that are meant to simulate ivory as celluloid these days. Celluloid was often referred to as “French Ivory” in its heyday to give it a little more snob appeal and is sometimes marked as such. The composition, however, has nothing at all to do with genuine ivory harvested from animal tusks. Another similar term for celluloid, Ivory Pyralin, is sometimes found stamped on these types of pieces as well.
Even though the pale-yellow pieces are recognized as this type of plastic most often, it took many forms and colors during the time it was being used. Celluloid was inexpensive, easy to work with, and durable when new. If you look around you can find knife handles, holiday decorations, razors, hair ornaments, dresser sets, and even jewelry made up of celluloid, and many of these are still in good condition today."
Here are two Schrade Cut. Co. knives with Imitation Ivory (Celluloid) handles from my collection. C. Wetzel-20609
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Re: Das Alte Schutzenscheibe (The old Shooting Target)
C. Wetzel-20609
04/26/2024 08:54 PM
On 02/14/2006 "Doug" posted his target on this Hunting, Forestry, and Shooting Forum, page 16, with a great description:
"I just got this great looking 1942 Named Rifle Shooting Stag Target Plate. The painting is a color print on heavy duty paper that is glued to a 1/4-inch-thick plywood plate that measures 18 inches across. There are five holes in it made by the bullets from the guys shooting at the stag --none hit the stag! The holes are larger on the backside and the shooters name is noted in pencil next to the hole so it could be painted in the front later in a nicer fashion. Hope you like the rather nice print. Bernd."
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Re: Das Alte Schutzenscheibe (The old Shooting Target)
C. Wetzel-20609
04/26/2024 08:21 PM
In the beginning of this thread, I stated that the numbers on the front and back of my 1944 cardboard target were the shooters scores. I was mistaken, they are the 1 through 13 numbers of the individual shooter.
Today using a magnifying glass on the front of the target I could read the numbers next to the surname. Three surnames on the front; Berndt, Scharf and Korsawe, I could find no number next to their surnames. Using the back of the target, I could find their numbers. These surnames are for the most part, Germanic with a Polish (Korsawe) surname and a French (Clement) surname.
Here is my shooters list: 1. Elkemann-Reusch 2. Berndt 3. Scharf 4. Clement 5. Rudolf 6. Rethmeier 7. Rogozq 8. Korsawe 9. Behr 10. Haut 11. Beer 12. Geiss 13. Bruckner
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Re: Das Alte Schutzenscheibe (The old Shooting Target)
C. Wetzel-20609
04/26/2024 04:00 PM
I found this image of a 1940 German target. Note the wood pegs to mark bullet holes. I believe the target subject is probably done in "Oldruck" (oil) and depicts a British soldier.
This 1940 target could probably be considered another German "target made for propaganda".
I would love to have this target in my collection. C. Wetzel-20609
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