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02/11/2007 06:20 PM
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Just got this from Bill Shea. Its probably one of the best value for money named daggers I have bought so far. Early Eick with second pattern crossguard. Neither Bill nor the previous owner ever found anything out about "O. Will" and so I got a good deal at just a bit above market value for this type of dagger. Regarding the engraving, Bill wrote to me: "I've probably owned 25,000 daggers and seen double that in other collections. I feel very comfortable that this is perod done. The quality and depth combined with the age and consistency meet with my degree of comfort." I agreeed and bought this piece. The 1939 Heer Ranglist shows 4 officers with last name "Will". As far as I have ascertained so far, only one has an O. initial first name, Otto Will. I now have avery good and cooperative contact at the BA-MA (Bundesarchiv Militararchiv Freiburg) and I hope to have complete certainty on this soon. Meanwhile... Generalleutnant Otto Will, was the army general in charge of inspecting the railway engineer corps throughout the war. Not a front line officer, but one tasked with an absolutely crucial task. More info soon. ![Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j253/tenoriodj/OttoWillObverseGrip.jpg) ![Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j253/tenoriodj/ottoWillInscription.jpg) ![Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j253/tenoriodj/OttoWillInscriptioClose.jpg) ![Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j253/tenoriodj/OttoWill_DasDeutscheHeer1939-45.jpg)
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#88112
02/11/2007 06:27 PM
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pommel ![Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j253/tenoriodj/OttoWillPommel.jpg) Eagle ![Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j253/tenoriodj/OttoWillEagle.jpg)
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#88113
02/11/2007 09:15 PM
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Already a beauty without it�s background! I agree, this is a kind of engraving (and "condition" of engraving I would expect when period done. Congratulations to this one! Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
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#88114
02/12/2007 09:12 PM
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Gustavo
nice work beatiful dagger. I looked at the same one i was going to buy it, but then Show of Shows would have been no fun. Looking forward to hearing more about this dagger. Nice work
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#88115
02/12/2007 09:54 PM
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Another beauty for sure. Congrats ! ![Cool](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif)
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#88116
02/13/2007 04:00 AM
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Gustavo, Very nice dagger! I always value Bill Shea's opinion on an item. Charlie
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#88117
02/13/2007 04:52 AM
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Gustavo,
You sure get the nice ones. And as always great research. Thanks for showing it.
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#88118
02/13/2007 04:53 PM
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Hi gustavo
What a nice dagger, but how do you know for sure the dagger belongs to Otto Will. It could be a other name.
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#88119
02/13/2007 08:49 PM
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Hi janjan, read my post above ![Smile](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)
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#88120
02/14/2007 04:17 PM
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Gustavo it's a very, very nice piece indeed. Many congrats to you.
Kind regards,
Davey
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#88121
05/14/2007 10:39 AM
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My process of eliminaiton continues... The Freiburg archivists (Bundesarchiv Militararchiv Freiburg) are friendly and I have good traction with them, finally... but they are German public servants after all ![Big Grin](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) They have their standard ways of searching and if you request anything outside their standard procedure, its like pulling teeth ![Red Face](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif) Of the 5 other "Will�s" listed in the Ranglisten we have managed to rule out Dr. Will, whose first name was Ernst. The Freiburg folks have actually sent me a copy of his "Karteikarte", the old library card type file with his name and rank etc... 4 more to go... Whats the chance of one of them having an O. first initial? we will see. I�m having fun in the process. If I am successful in ruling out the remaning four "Will�s", I will share the highlights of Generalleutnant Otto Will�s Personalakten which I have. This is his pic and signature ![Image and video hosting by TinyPic](http://i4.tinypic.com/4qs50d0.jpg) Remaining four "Will" officers: - Oberstleutnant Will, Stab, VI Armeekorps Munster. Date of rank 1.3.37 - Hauptmann Will, Infanterie regiment 41. Date of rank 1.36.38 - Hauptmann Will, Gebirgsbeobachtungsabtelung 38, previously Beob. abt. 17. Date of rank 1.11.34 - Leutnant Will, Artillerie Regiment 26, date of rank 1.9.38
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