#63345
12/11/2008 03:15 AM
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Terry,
Another city heard from. Serious thanks to Gary S. for sending an early Christmas gift my way! This one is a mid production piece that's in pretty nice condition overall, dual marked by Carl E. on the reverse. I'll send you a better pic if you need one for your update.
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#63346
12/11/2008 04:00 AM
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Another great find by Billy G. Thanks for the photo.
TKissinger
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#63347
12/11/2008 10:59 PM
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Terry, I'm merely the recipient, Baz let it fall in my lap & I was only too happy to accept
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#63348
12/28/2008 11:22 AM
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I spotted a short dress bayonet by Krusius Solingen (Gazelle) and could not find it in the TM list. Did I overlook the mark or is it not there yet?
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#63349
12/28/2008 04:46 PM
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Kilian,
That's a nice rare mark on a bayonet, I would say that's a new one for the list. I don't believe I've ever seen one before either. I've seen the mark on SA/NSKK daggers occasionally & Fisher's list shows Gebruder Krusius as an HJ knife manufacturer as well. The firm was in business from 1886 through 1983 when sadly, they went bankrupt & their machinery was sold off at auction.
Can you show the rest of the bayonet? Is this a Weimar era piece?
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#63350
12/28/2008 06:59 PM
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Kilian
Does the bayonet have two or three rivets.
TKissinger
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#63351
12/28/2008 07:38 PM
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The bayonet has a short carbine blade, two rivets in the grips and the diamond shaped pattern on the grips. I�d say it�s probably Weimar period. Here�s the link to the Dutch auction site: http://link.marktplaats.nl/216523488
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#63352
01/14/2009 07:35 PM
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Trying to post an interesting maker or distributor mark but keep getting this message. Same as a few weeks ago. "There was an FTP (file transfer) error. The detail is 'Upload to '/testdir/test.txt' failed. Detail: '552 Transfer aborted. Disk quota exceeded ''.Oh well, check here instead... http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3036736#post3036736
WANTED TO REPURCHASE!! Walther pistol Model PP - ac code - Ser. No. 382000P - REWARD FOR INFO ABOUT THIS PISTOL!!
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#63353
01/14/2009 10:14 PM
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Denny,
Was this piece an Eban pickup? I seem to remember something similar to this mark a while ago. Are the initials stamped or etched? I had thought this was some sort of personalization, maybe jeweler done initials of the original owner?
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#63354
01/15/2009 01:11 AM
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Hi Billy, This belongs to a friend of mine. I took this picture a few years ago and couldn't remember if I had posted it or not. I don't remember if it is stamped or etched.
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#63355
01/15/2009 01:28 AM
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Dennys friend showed me this bayonet 3-4 years ago if I remember right, it was a nice piece and no he wouldn't sell it.
TKissinger
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#63356
01/15/2009 03:19 AM
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T&D,
Wild piece, I could swear I saw something that was a dead ringer to it on Eban within the last year. Maybe it isn't a singular piece? I think the logo looks stamped, it appears to have metal displacement around the outer diamond border. Does anyone else see what I'm talking about or am I losing my marbles late in the day?
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#63357
01/17/2009 12:33 PM
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A version of "Georg Rieder". Best regards. Denis
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#63358
01/17/2009 01:11 PM
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#63359
03/08/2009 10:20 PM
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Denny found this new distributor for me at the SOS show. It has a ACS TM with a distributor Hast & Uhthoff, Dresden. It has a few issues with condition but still a keeper. Here is a little info on them. I Quote from Carters book on Trade Marks. Hast & Uhthoff, Kgl. Hofieferant, Dresden-A. Freibergerstrasse 47 in 1900, Dresden-N6 Neustadter Markt 9 in 1931-42. Founded in 1815. A manufacturer of gold and silverware and also leather goods in 1900, and a purveyor to the Royal Saxon Household and of swords to the officers of the Royal Saxon army. One of the few Hoflieferanten to survive the 1914-18 war and to continue in business into the 1940s.
TKissinger
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#63360
03/08/2009 10:32 PM
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This one was already on the list but I found one at the SOS for my collection.
TKissinger
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#63361
03/08/2009 10:42 PM
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Terry,
Nice pickups. This is only the 4th K.Negele I've seen. Never seen the Hast & Uhthoff mark on a dress bayonet but I have seen it on a couple of Heer daggers, a Landzoll dagger & from memory, a couple of Imperial/Weimar edged weapons. What else did you score?
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#63362
03/09/2009 02:35 PM
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Billy/Terry
I have the Hast & Uhtfhoff mark on an otherwise unmarked, but clearly Alcoso, Luft2.
John
Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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#63363
03/15/2009 09:16 AM
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Didn't find this one in your list, J.H.C. FRIE Hannover. Cheers
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#63364
06/06/2009 01:04 AM
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I don't know whats wrong with me, I am now buying duplicates of ones I already have. This one has a few extra features.
Back of frog is maker marked "Karl Muller, Altenburg/Th. Ernststr.17". With its original Luftwaffe dress bayonet knot having gray leather strap, gray cord ball with red cord cap. Inside of leather on strap is profusely LW marked with this flak artillery outfit's designation "II/Flak Rgt. 26" and '7.Battr I" [I believe that this translates to the 2nd Company/26th Anti-Aircraft Artillery Regiment/7th Battery. Also marked with Luftwaffe equipment issue depot stamping 'LBA (8) 38' [translates to "Luftwaffebeleidungsamt=Luftwaffe Clothing Depot Office
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#63365
06/06/2009 01:05 AM
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The distributor mark on the Epack.
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#63366
06/06/2009 01:07 AM
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#63367
06/06/2009 04:53 PM
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Great pictures, guys.
Terry: that is one lovely bayonet.
Cogratulations to all.
John
Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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#63368
07/16/2009 02:06 AM
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Hi Terry,
I don't see this mark on any of the lists. It looks like I. I. C. Kollmann, Quakenbruck. I assume it's a distributor mark on an otherwise unmarked short, stag grip dress bayo. The seller thought it could be luft because there was a luft base near Quakenbruck. The frog does look to have a brown tinge to it. What do you think?
Thanks, Lance
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#63369
07/16/2009 02:18 AM
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#63370
07/16/2009 02:27 AM
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With the scabbard.
Thanks.
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#63371
07/17/2009 12:25 AM
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Lance
I don't think the name is I. I. C. Kollmann but I.C. Kollmann. The first I is a double strike, not a big deal it happen often. First time for this distributor mark for me. Nice pick-up.
Is this picture below a picture of your bayonet. The reason is I don't like the way the grips fit on this one. Could be OK, would like to see in person.
TKissinger
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#63372
07/17/2009 01:14 AM
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I wondered what had became of this bayonet. http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...100044215#4100044215A few years ago, the owner pumped GDC members for info and then sold it on another forum. I thought it had been previously posted here on Terry's thread.
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#63373
07/17/2009 01:19 AM
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new to me too,
the stag looks ok not new has that yellow look. but I think Terry was looking at the fit and I see his point. But I think its ok.
I wish I had a new one to post. steve
Looking for PP mag # 981029
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#63374
07/17/2009 01:41 AM
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O.K. Denny, I remember the thread now. Whatever you and Terry are taking for memory I need some. I can't remember what I did yesterday.
Steve.
Looking for PP mag # 981029
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#63375
07/17/2009 04:43 AM
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Wow you guys do have great memories. This is the same bayo based on the wear and hole in the frog, the same scratchs on the scabbard, the same pattern to the stag etc.
I have another short stag that I have doubts about but I agree with Steve that this one is ok. I really appreciate Von Ryan's comment in the original post. The comments in the original post also reinforce the idea that this is Luft.
Original poster's location was West Coast so this one didn't go too far over the last few years.
Thanks alot guys, I do appreciate the info and comments and can provide better pics if anyone is interested.
Lance
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#63376
12/14/2009 12:45 PM
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Hi! A variant of the Mark of GECO, regards.
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#63377
12/14/2009 10:28 PM
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Nacho,
Now THAT'S a Geco variation I haven't seen, well done!
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#63378
12/14/2009 11:26 PM
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Dang, Dang, I thought I had seen them all. Nice pick-up. Billy, did you notice its not a Firemans bayonet.
TKissinger
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#63379
12/15/2009 02:01 AM
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T, I did , if I find one like this you'll get an email!
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#63380
12/15/2009 02:01 AM
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Duplicate post
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#63381
02/21/2010 11:11 AM
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Hi! This is a variant of Otto Br�mer Wolffenb�ttel, please how common it is? Regards.
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#63382
02/21/2010 01:23 PM
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This distributor also spine marked it's products & we've seen a few of them here over the years, Steven C. has a stag version. IMO A spine marked example would be more desirable on a rarity scale but to answer your question, Bromer is not a common mark.
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#63383
02/21/2010 09:24 PM
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Billy
Are you speaking of Otto Bromer.
TKissinger
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#63384
02/21/2010 11:18 PM
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T,
Yup, Otto Br�mer. I was unaware of the nonspine mark on your list & presumed this was one & the same distributor with the most recent mark being the store's name.
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