#56869
08/15/2005 06:30 PM
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Hello, Here are some recent pick-ups I thought that everyone would like to see. First, we have a EM tab for "Bad Tolz" officer canidate school. This tab took me a while to find, but now my set is complete. Jim Toncar, if you are viewing I would very much like to see your tabs. Also, I am trying to remember if there was one made in "block" lettering with a small "T". If so, then the hunt continues.
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#56870
08/15/2005 06:32 PM
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The back side. Paper tag is missing.
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#56871
08/15/2005 06:36 PM
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All three tabs. The officers tab with the large "block" "T" came out of a hotel buy about two years ago. The officers tab with the "gothic" "T" came from Mr. Jenkins.
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#56872
08/15/2005 06:37 PM
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#56873
08/15/2005 06:40 PM
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Next we have some early rune tabs to "Deutschland", "Germania", and "Der Fuhrer".
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#56874
08/15/2005 06:45 PM
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#56875
08/15/2005 06:48 PM
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Here are two sets of "Germania" boards. The one set is a perfect match, but the other w/o piping is slightly different. notice the "G"'s one has more pointed ends, but both came from same tunic.
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#56876
08/15/2005 06:50 PM
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#56877
08/15/2005 06:52 PM
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Here is another recent pick-up this week. A "Totenkopf" nco tab for Dacau.
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#56878
08/15/2005 06:53 PM
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#56879
08/15/2005 06:55 PM
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The last pick-up. A "Totenkopf" nco sleeve diamond.
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#56880
08/15/2005 06:57 PM
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back of diamond. If anyone else would like to post any early VT/TK insignia please do so. Would love to see what else is out there. Grant
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#56881
08/15/2005 07:05 PM
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Great thread Grant.Thanks for posting these examples.If you have examples...could you start-off a thread on SS-VT enlisted cufftitles?Specifically pre-war examples.I dont have any or I would.But I would be very interested in studying the actual pre-war titles worn by SS-VT enlisted personnel.Thanks,Dave T.
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#56882
08/15/2005 07:49 PM
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Grant, many thanks for posting such rar insignias on the forum. This are so rar and very hard to find SS cloth insignias. I would also be very happy to get anyday the chance to find such insignias for my collection. Gratualtions Grant !
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#56883
08/15/2005 07:57 PM
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Wooow....
I have to quote Howard Carter when asked by Lord Carnavon if seeing anything after having broken the seal to Thutankamuns tomb;
I see wonderful things!
Very nice and rare stuff shown! Beyond the reach for us normal collectors!
Thanks for sharing!
//Felix
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#56884
08/15/2005 08:12 PM
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Thanks for the replys. Dave, I have some nice examples that I will get some pics of and post soon,ok. Grant
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#56885
08/15/2005 08:57 PM
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but H. Carter received an Aspergillus flavus breeze thru the broken sealing, this cloth items are much more healthy for the collector world.
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#56886
08/15/2005 10:50 PM
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Hi Grant , I sent you a scan of my Tolz tabs, in answer to your question the Tolz tab does exsist with the smaller "T" in the block form . This is a very hard tab to get , I have only seen one a number of years ago . Jim
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#56887
08/15/2005 11:39 PM
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Here are the officer's school Tolz cufftitles. Jim
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#56888
08/16/2005 01:05 AM
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Thanks for showing Grant!
Jim
Here is your pic a little bigger!
PVON
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#56889
08/16/2005 01:06 AM
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Thanks for showing Grant!
Just amazing!
Jim
Here is yours a little bigger!
Also amazing!
PVON
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#56890
08/16/2005 02:12 AM
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Oh my... You guys are killing me here, stunning...just stunning....
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#56891
08/16/2005 11:19 PM
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Here is my humble addition to this show. Picked it up earlier this year.
Greg
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#56892
08/16/2005 11:20 PM
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#56893
08/17/2005 01:33 AM
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Absolutely stunning insignia. Thanks for sharing.
"And I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow" -Cross of Iron
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#56894
08/17/2005 01:53 AM
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the "creme de la creme" for SS cloth collectors. And one of the hardest to find ones are shown here on those view posts. You guys know well what you have in your collection.
Thanks for sharing it guys
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#56895
08/17/2005 02:43 AM
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Dear Grant, The bullion VT and TV insignia items you have posted are superb. Very rare items indeed. Obviously low rez digital pictures are misleading posted on the web but are you 100% comfortable with the enlisted "T" and Deutschland tabs? The stitching and configuration of the runes, especially seen on the close-up of the "T", seems a bit off. Maybe it's just my old and tired eyes. Derek
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#56896
08/17/2005 01:36 PM
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Interesting. Ok, Since this is a discussion forum, let's find out who and where these tabs are made? Show me one firm that is currently making repro tabs such as these (same quality)? Better yet! let us see some pictures of these high quality tabs. I not mad, but I just want to see proof. Let me show you some of my comparisions. Pictured are the two tabs along with two tabs that I personally purchased from two different U.S. veterans from different areas in the United States. I have the liberty of holding the pieces in hand and I understand that the only thing you have to go is the pics, but I can assure you that the construction and the type of thread is the same.
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#56897
08/17/2005 01:38 PM
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#56898
08/17/2005 01:41 PM
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Sorry about that! That last pic showed a close-up of the thread.
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#56899
08/17/2005 01:46 PM
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Here are some more early insignia. John I have also added, per your request, some pics of VT and early war RZM Em cuff titles.
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#56900
08/17/2005 01:48 PM
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08/17/2005 01:50 PM
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08/17/2005 01:52 PM
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08/17/2005 01:56 PM
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08/17/2005 01:57 PM
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08/17/2005 01:58 PM
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#56906
08/17/2005 02:06 PM
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Ok, John here are your cuff titles you wanted to see. IMO your pre-war bands were narrower in width and the aluminum borders are tighter. Look at the pics and you will see what I mean. The "Germania" gothic band shown is IMO made early or mid-war period. The "SS Schule Tolz" band came out of a huge score Hotel buy in Bluefield, WV. some extremely rare Totenkopf cuff bands were in that group as well. By the way the group is pictured in the latest war booty book by Schiffler books. enjoy.
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#56907
08/17/2005 02:07 PM
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08/17/2005 02:08 PM
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