I really appreciate this discussion. I had always wondered about the undated daggers. After reading the discussion, I went through some of the daggers I am selling and found I have both a Naval and an Army that lack the date. Both have the early gold plating (or traces). These two have been moved to the collection category and withdrawn from sale.

I would welcome any ideas on these undated pieces.

Also, there ae legitimate black gripped daggers. Does any know if they are special?

Thank you